Janus motorcycles

Soooo Mr. Cole has a few hidden talents from the past?? Now at this level of gossip, you do have to tell all!
Oh yes! - <pulls up comfy chair> - Tell, tell!.

I find HC a bit obviously mock "one of the lads" - all part of the act. It's entertaining.

But he did bring Sam Lovegrove to my attention, and for that he has to be thanked. One of these visits - I will have to trawl Cornwall.
 
OOPS!
There be a deal breaker for me . . . I'm out.

No kidding. I was just about to chime in that I'd like to have one in the stable until IDK pointed out the Harbor Freight engine.

At the Horizons Unlimited gather in BC a couple of years ago a guy showed up on one of those Chinese dual sports. What a rag. He was going through the obstacle course with parts falling off the bike. It looked good but was total junk in my opinion.
 
I want to be clear here. My experience of Chinese construction quality is that the most important factor is the reseller criteria. Price or quality based.

I have seen some absolute CRUD sold. The resellers blame the mfr - but it later transpires they beat them down on price and openly accepted poor quality. And more to the point did not really care - it is easy to simply replace the odd poor one than do proper QC.

This is a MONSTER problem with telescopic sights sold for AIRGUN use. No don't laugh - a spring airgun produces recoil harmonics that will shatter a sight that works on a 308WM.

Then there are others - who have a Chinese product, made well and priced accordingly - nobody wants it.

As for bits falling off - Harley had a real reputation for that in the UK as did Triumph etc. It was Honda that made us realise this was not a standard feature for 2 wheelers.

The Janus - well MAYBE the price has to do with them REALLY checking everything. And US labour costs apply.
 

I've had three Harley's, a Shovel, an Evo and and a Twin Cam. While each had their issues associated with the generations, I've never seen one's like that Chinese dual sport. Chincy is probably the best word that comes to mind.

And yes, some of the Chinese manufactured goods are improving but I wouldn't have an engine made in China just yet. Another example is the lawn mower and shredder engines made in China, some which are sold here at the major box stores. When they warm up and the engines are shut down, they won't start again until the engine cools down. Both my son and I experienced this and he found out what the problem is by doing some on line research. Thin cylinder walls.