Issues with new Rocket 3 Roadster..Help Please!

[MickyB]

Welcome from another of the Aussies. Tuning?

 

[ant]

Hello and welcome from the UK....Hope you get your bike problems sorted soon.

 

[warp9.9]

Thank You MRJ and offcourse everyone else for the feedback. Surely it needs to go the dealership and have them look at it. or else I do the same myself.

Appreciate it a lot!

Have a safe ride all!

@nitinbaweja man and I thought Szczepaniak was a hard name I hope yours is a combination of a couple I tried pronouncing it but being Polish I am not sure what to do with the W and the J? Anyway No one is saying you have to take it to the dealer because if he has not figured it out it might not get any better if they try again. I remember a few detuned/low,Kw maps for Various countries. Not sure if yours is one or not. Maybe your dealer can flash another tune to see if it make any changes. It is hard to just guess when you are so far away. But if you have any mechanical back ground and are at least like myself and decent with a lap top you can do a little trouble shooting (possible for your dealer) for the cost of 20 USD for a cable and down load the free software to hack into the ecu. I would say no matter what if you own a Rocket the software is worth it just for normal maintenance and trouble shooting. We can help walk you thru the checks. Anyway we are pressing to you because of the bike being so new and under warranty and we do not want you to have any issues. It is also part of the purchase you just got unlucky and have a dealer that has one more operating brain cell then a dead cow!!

You did not answer my rpm questions and if the engine light is on or not. First I am trying to eliminate whether you clutch is slipping and she is winding up. "your statement 1) The bike has done less than 300kms on it but seems doesn't want to go over 100-110Kms/Hr. It seems to be far too revved up at that point, almost like I'm missing a gear (after 5th) when I reach that Kmh. It just like it it is resisting to go beyond that. Has me wondering if the clutch is slipping and you do not realize it or if you are hitting a rev limiter (she will cut out as you hit the limiter.
Now Ian has a good idea on the knock I just wonder if it is more of a cough you feeling under the seat like from the air box?

Hang in there it will get sorted out.

 

[nitinbaweja]

@nitinbaweja man and I thought Szczepaniak was a hard name I hope yours is a combination of a couple I tried pronouncing it but being Polish I am not sure what to do with the W and the J? Anyway No one is saying you have to take it to the dealer because if he has not figured it out it might not get any better if they try again. I remember a few detuned/low,Kw maps for Various countries. Not sure if yours is one or not. Maybe your dealer can flash another tune to see if it make any changes. It is hard to just guess when you are so far away. But if you have any mechanical back ground and are at least like myself and decent with a lap top you can do a little trouble shooting (possible for your dealer) for the cost of 20 USD for a cable and down load the free software to hack into the ecu. I would say no matter what if you own a Rocket the software is worth it just for normal maintenance and trouble shooting. We can help walk you thru the checks. Anyway we are pressing to you because of the bike being so new and under warranty and we do not want you to have any issues. It is also part of the purchase you just got unlucky and have a dealer that has one more operating brain cell then a dead cow!!

You did not answer my rpm questions and if the engine light is on or not. First I am trying to eliminate whether you clutch is slipping and she is winding up. "your statement 1) The bike has done less than 300kms on it but seems doesn't want to go over 100-110Kms/Hr. It seems to be far too revved up at that point, almost like I'm missing a gear (after 5th) when I reach that Kmh. It just like it it is resisting to go beyond that. Has me wondering if the clutch is slipping and you do not realize it or if you are hitting a rev limiter (she will cut out as you hit the limiter.
Now Ian has a good idea on the knock I just wonder if it is more of a cough you feeling under the seat like from the air box?

Hang in there it will get sorted out.

Thanks Warp9.9 for your message. You are correct about the dealer...It has been more than a week and even on a status check call seems they are still figuring out the issue with no clear answer if they will be able to sort it out. The current dealership set up is making things even worse cos this dealer in Dubai is not the direct dealer of Triumph, they are so called a sub dealer who buys Triumph bikes + other brands like Vespa, Aprila and other from the main dealer for Gulf in Qatar.

to make matters worst I have been riding the demo bike since that time and seems the issues are similar on that as well.

their is a knocking sound that comes, especially at lowers speeds the moment i release the accelerator and use it again to rev it up. this bike (currently done approx 3000kms) accelerates surely better than my bike upto 120Kms but after that cries a lot anytime you try and go over 140Kms or +.

My question is:
- Is this slight knocking sound experienced by all 2014 R3 owners or their seems to be an issue with this lot of bikes coming to Gulf
- are R3 2014 model owners are easily able to accelerate to over 140+Kms?. While I was thinking their is some limit or restrictions posed because of bike done under 1K Kms, this demo bike has already done 3K and has similar issue.


Appreciate all the help in the matter.

 

[MRJ]

Ok now this sounds better. Most if not all Rockets do have a clunk in the driveline. Low speed unload will see them clunk about a bit. Once under load it shouldn't happen. As far as performance goes, take Warps advice and buy the cable so some diagnostics can be done. Plenty of people here to walk you thru it.

 

[nitinbaweja]

Ok now this sounds better. Most if not all Rockets do have a clunk in the driveline. Low speed unload will see them clunk about a bit. Once under load it shouldn't happen. As far as performance goes, take Warps advice and buy the cable so some diagnostics can be done. Plenty of people here to walk you thru it.

Thanks MRJ. Puts me at ease a bit for the knocking part. Just waiting for a day or 2 and then getting the bike back to work on it myself.
Cheers

 

[cardinal93]

Don't have a 14, bot no problems up to 220 km/hr

 

[Mittzy]

Mine goes past 250 but it has not always done that

 

[cardinal93]

My gauge doesn't go any higher
I can't imagine how fast yours goes with those new mods!
Anything less than 130km/hr you get run over on the autobahn. I found 160-180 to be very comfortable cruising speed.

 

[idk]

If you have any of these tunes in your ECU then you will be severely restricted, and it would explain the low top speed and poor acceleration.

20354, 20354, 20686, 20687, 20774, 20775.

Ask the dealer what the number of the OEM tune is that is in the bike. If the dealer has the Triumph diagnostic tool then he will be able to tell you. If he can't tell you then get the bike back as soon as you can, hook up TuneECU to it, and read the tune from the ECU. It will show you the tune number.