I said I would never do it, but...........


I remember it well. And the pictures. Not to mention the pretty obvious effect it had on him afterwards.
Throttle lock may have caused it but a helmet might have been a good idea…….. Just saying'.
Have been glad to see him recover.
 
xlr8tion said:
That is tragic....When he started the bike was it in neutral and how did it get away from him? It would have redlined in neutral.
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Dont know, my theory is that it was an oh chit moment and caught him off guard
 
CanberraR3 said:
I remember it well. And the pictures. Not to mention the pretty obvious effect it had on him afterwards.
Throttle lock may have caused it but a helmet might have been a good idea…….. Just saying'.
Have been glad to see him recover.
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You got that right
 
IMFASTTOO said:
Well here you go PHIL BULL has a bike that crashed with a car tire so lets see what can be found out as the investigation continues
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I'm not so hung up on this one case as we've seen or heard of this before and we understand how the game is played.

We know for a fact that the different bead designs can lead to sudden and potentially catastrophic separation between a motorcycle wheel's bead and a car tires bead, as one is not engineered to work safely or reliably with the other. We also know that should an insurer or their expert witnesss(es) determine that (tire/rim bead failure) to be either the or a proximate cause of an accident, then its game, set and match to the insurer and for those injured or caused property damage(s) by the burdened (guilty) party, in this example, the rider with the car tire.

So, given what we already know, the outcome of this particular case or whether it involves a car tire as the cause is moot. Mixing tires and rims not designed to work together is an unsafe practice. Whether a darksider gets away with it or not is simply a matter of probability and statistics - basically, it comes down to luck with regard to how long you might repeat the practice before your luck runs out. Also, as a sidebar, CTs handle for chit vs a MT.
 
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HA! HA! HA!
 
At speed you surely can't rule out the effect of a large screen or even excessive luggage, or a combination of factors. Fact it had a car the might just point to an owner who doesn't like to spent on safety or maintenance generally.
 
mexican said:
You got that right
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OK...so it is human error as when I start the bike it is on side stand and in neutral. Even if you are on the bike with the stand up and the bike in gear your HAVE TO RELEASE THE CLUTCH at "X" RPM.

I think its a tragedy for sure but the throttle lock did not spin WOT and disengage the clutch.

Sounds like there is more to than this story. I am ATGATT so I am not taking my bike off a trailer without a Helmet on. Darkside aside.....Bikes just do not randomly go accelerating off WOT unless you start the bike then go WOT.


The one I use is the one Phil referenced and you can roll off throttle easy with it on so that would have never happened to me unless I was S-faced and that is why I do not drink. S happens that becomes mysterious and unrelated to the equipment and related to operator error.
 
CanberraR3 said:
At speed you surely can't rule out the effect of a large screen or even excessive luggage, or a combination of factors. Fact it had a car the might just point to an owner who doesn't like to spent on safety or maintenance generally.
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NOW who's posting on darkside threads??????????????????? EH?????????????????

Repeat after me...... I must not...................................
 
There is nothing more to the story, i thinkl you are right there was human error involved
 
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