Help please, 08 R3T not starting

Well the problem has finally been identified, I pressurized the cylinders and blew air out all three intakes. I didn't even touch the intake cam or shims during this process. It sure seems like I would have felt it when the piston bent the valves, apparently it doesn't take much force. The head is about to come off so I'll update with photos in a bit. Any chance the head is salvageable? The manual makes it sound like the head is completely unserviceable and disposable.
 
Claviger - Could you explain the ignition timing to me? How does the ECU know which stroke the crank is on a startup? Doesn't disconnecting power make it reset? I'm still not sure how to get the crank a full rotation out during the timing adjustment but I'm sure a handful of us will run into this issue.
 
ok u say it is blowing air out the throttle bodies.
is it on the compression stroke?
have u checked your valve clearance?
if too tight needs adjusting
if u have a lot of gap then it is either out of time or valves bent.
jmo i would do more diagnosing before i pulled the head.
 
Have you checked here recently?
Installation of Neville Lush Racing "street" cams in 2014 Rocket III Touring

Regarding servicing the head:

It's not disposable, it can be serviced for sure. Mine was salved after a valve piston marriage made in hell that bent a Titanium valve so bad it couldn't be moved by hand, scored the tappet hole, and created a "custom" valve relief in the piston.

Regarding how it knows which cylinder is where, the crank trigger has missing teeth, as all do, so it knows where TDC is. The ECU then works out which cylinder is doing what based on MAP signal in relation to the crank sensor, which is why, you need to maintain OEM length on the 3 vacuum lines.
 
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u know it be be a benefit to know what u have done on the bike. was told changed cams then told did not change intake cam
if u bent the valves the crank/cams must have been off.
i would suggest that the next time u also verify with your indicator that u r truly at tdc.
if u have the #1 piston all the way up and u set cams then u can not be 180 off u r on firing stroke
 
Well, I bent all of the intake valves but it doesn't look like there's any damage to the pistons or the exhaust valves. Heading to the machine shop now for a better assessment.
 

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This started out as a valve shim adjustment on the exhaust side but I don't have an alignment dot on the crank gear. I marked the chain and sprocket on the cams and crank with a Sharpie before disassembly but somehow I messed it up.
 
Jester 76 said:
Well, I bent all of the intake valves but it doesn't look like there's any damage to the pistons or the exhaust valves. Heading to the machine shop now for a better assessment.
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Well that really sucks!!

I hope you get everything worked out and back in good running order. Keep us posted.
 
The valve guides are okay which is a big relief. I managed to tweak two of the exhaust valves as well as all the intakes @ $52/ea. All told this is a $750 parts bill but I should have it back on the road next week. I have a planned ride with another couple starting next weekend and the wife is none to happy with me at the moment. On the plus side, I know the engine much better!
 
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