Hagon rear shocks

[barbagris]

Just news: SKF makes a seal and dust guard set for the R3R, about $66/set.

Rob - When I had my Maxtons fitted - my suspension guy put Ohlins seals in in place of Kayaba - They are NOT expensive. 2K is a A LOT - My Maxtons were about 500quid iirc (plus the ruddy shipping - grrrr) and the fitting including full overhaul, polishing etc, all new seals etc - iirc was 150€. And when I needed the air gap reducing later they did it for free. My local guy was going to start making cartridges. I'll ask how his business plan is going. He has purchased two more industrial units - so I'll guess he has work.

 

[Tripps]

Maxton won't sell to USA.

 

[Claviger]

That doesn’t mean they’re unattainable, just more challenging.

Looking at the three top options: Racetech, Traxxion, and Maxton I think I am leaning towards Maxton. External rebound adjustment is only on the Maxtons and it’s a big deal.

 

[Joesmoe]

Right . . . Becker won't sell to the US, and yet, I have a Becker stand in my garage.

 

[RocketmanBristol]

That doesn’t mean they’re unattainable, just more challenging.

Looking at the three top options: Racetech, Traxxion, and Maxton I think I am leaning towards Maxton. External rebound adjustment is only on the Maxtons and it’s a big deal.

Claviger, just ship your Rocket over to the UK, I'd be more than happy to make sure Maxton fitted your cartridges properly and carry out suitable road testing just so you know that they're up to the job!

 

[Claviger]

Also for the record ohlinsUSA can right off a **** cliff.

When I inquired about sorting a set of cartridges on their “tech” line their answer was basically “No”. A very narrow minded ignorant view for a company, but so be it, they’re dead to me for life. Not sure how having fork internal dimensions, bike weight, rider weight, triple offset, head angle and trail is “not enough information” get right ****ed ohlins.

 

[warp9.9]

That doesn’t mean they’re unattainable, just more challenging.

Looking at the three top options: Racetech, Traxxion, and Maxton I think I am leaning towards Maxton. External rebound adjustment is only on the Maxtons and it’s a big deal.

Rob are you sure the traxxion ak 20's are not internally adjustable

I thought they were . I agree on the intetnal adjustment nothing like it.

 

[Claviger]

To correct this error I made earlier:

Traxxion come with replacement caps that give preload compression and rebound.
Maxton are capable of the same external adjustments but raises the price.
Racetech only internally adjustable for the Rocket.

 

[warp9.9]

To correct this error I made earlier:

Traxxion come with replacement caps that give preload compression and rebound.
Maxton are capable of the same external adjustments but raises the price.
Racetech only internally adjustable for the Rocket.

Oh I thought they modified yours since you send the forks to them.

 

[KSS]

Claviger, just ship your Rocket over to the UK, I'd be more than happy to make sure Maxton fitted your cartridges properly and carry out suitable road testing just so you know that they're up to the job!

Those are pretty emotive comments! Its so easy to criticise without being in full command of the realities. ( And frankly forums are notorious in this respect ) Any company, including Ohlins only have so much R&D and production capacity. They will therefore concentrate on the most important areas of return and demand attainable within their capacity, like any successful company.
They have never for example prototyped rear shock units for Rocket 3 and with any such product they need to be assured of sufficient volume to recover their R&D time and to make something important to all businesses, PROFIT. This in an increasingly crowded marketplace where there is a lot of contamination from many lower cost but also poorly engineered products. The market is of course obsessively price and discount driven, this places even further pressure on pedigree level companies whose manufacturing costs are already high because they are not selling their soul to ''bastardisation'' ( quality cheapening ) of product by accountants. So, as in a previous post, I mentioned that margins on premium level product are somewhat squeezed because of such pressures. And then consumers think they are being ripped off!
Spare a thought also that companies like Ohlins have international ISO accreditation. Thats further layers of compliance and cost that has to be worked through
Of our own volition we here in NZ developed our own Rocket 3 spec and have now made and sold in excess of 60 sets. Even then I figure that we didnt recover our own R&D costs etc until we sold at least 15 sets and then started making a profit. Thats a risk in such a tiny and open market that has suffered the effects of worldwide internet sales, most especially from brazen discount predators based in the USA. We will not export because we respect other distributors appointed sales territories and in any event we are struggling to fully service our own market

I will not be posting anything further on this forum due to huge time pressures that require productivity