Hagon rear shocks

[Tal]

Will do....tonite...cheers

 

[KSS]

Not much point dangling the carrot then saying that you only supply to your home market, just looking at shock prices is enough to make the average working man choke on his pint!
Now I know my old mum says you only get what you pay for, but really,some of these suspension mods cost almost what I paid for the bike..............

Price conceptions are an interesting subject, when you get past the emotive comments in the marketplace. The market for replacement suspension units in especially the car world is very much conditioned to huge volume sealed for life units that have had ''adequate only, if that '' calibration of their damping characteristics within the boundaries of their relatively unsophisticated internal construction. Low cost material choices, low cost tolerancing , low cost oil, no cavitation precluding gas pressurisation , ad infinitum. The volume of cars made and the ''cross pollination'' of internal and external componentry that is often hidden and doesnt need to look attractive makes it a lot easier and less costly than in the motorcycle world

Of course there are many low cost motorcycle suspension units and many nasty offerings from mainland Asia that deserve no less than contempt for their abysmal performance and quality. Take the oem shocks on the Indian Scout for example, there is absolutely no rebound damping! They shouldnt even be allowed on the road in that state. Again, I defer to the memory of Ralph Nader who exposed such issues.

Fast forward to the pedigree brands such as Ohlins, WP, Penske and Nitron. Careful and higher cost material choices, internal sophistication and close tolerancing. Microfinished gas reservoir bores for a dividing gas pressurisation piston that positively seperates gas and oil. No low cost bladders in a low cost reservoir bore! Moreover a lot of individual time is spent for every model to develop a damping characteristic in combination with spring rate and preload that will deliver superb chassis control and ride quality.

Of course thoroughly engineered and developed pedigree level shocks with superb performance and rebuildability / spare parts availability and commensurate backup will cost a LOT more. The material costs, build costs and development costs are high

Spare a thought then that because the costs are high the inevitable consequence is that end margins get squeezed. Its all very well to decry the purchase cost of pedigree level suspension but take a moment to think that the margin the reseller is making is actually not that handsome. In percentage terms the margins that are made on ''cheap and cheerful'' mass produced and throwaway suspension units are mostly considerably higher

Beer is the same, you only get what you pay for, but for some unexplained reason I dont hear a lot of people complaining about the price of beer, compared to other products???

 

[Tal]

.........and, a good beer in sufficient quantities will definitely upset your suspension!!

 

[warp9.9]

There are only two types of beer.
1. The type I buy and the type I'm given and their both pretty darn good

 

[Claviger]

All ready to get the fork tubes dropped off tomorrow:

 

[Grumpy Ole Codger]

There are only two types of beer.
1. The type I buy and the type I'm given and their both pretty darn good

I find that those beers donated by very kind hearted individuals always taste that little bit better

 

[Claviger]

Forks are dropped off. There is a drop in cartridge solution available, but, most people won’t want to drop $2K on parts and labor. I asked home to see what we can do about developing a revalve for the stock equipment instead, hoping it’ll be around $1K parts and labor.

We’ll see, it’s all Racetech stuff so it’ll be good either way. More answers in a couple of days.

SKF seals are available for the Rocket III USD forks, so that, at least is a nice upgrade.

 

[joesoap]

All ready to get the fork tubes dropped off tomorrow:

For a split second i thought that jack had that bike perched then i looked closer

 

[Claviger]

Jack is just insurance it doesn’t rock forward, I can see how that looks crazy though!

 

[Claviger]

All torn down today. I don’t recall anyone posting any R3R pics of fork guys, so here’s that.

Bad news: No revalving of stock internals.
Good news: There are at least two drop in adjustable cartridge options out there. Maxton and Racetech. Will make a decision soon, still mulling over the options.
Just news: SKF makes a seal and dust guard set for the R3R, about $66/set.