Do 5 3/4" Daymakers fit into stock buckets?

DEcosse said:

That is contradiction to their spec which as you see states operates an extremely wide voltage range, from 9V all the way to 32V.
Did the flicker occur with engine running or with just ignition-on?

I do note that JWS sells an "anti-flicker harness" - can't say for sure what that is exactly

http://www.jwspeaker.com/products/led-headlights-model-8700-evolution-2/8000381/

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Ken

Yup a massive contradiction - I do have the EARLY 8630's though. And the spec's were different.
The JWS answer was that when they said 12V they really meant 12V systems which are normally higher "in use". They said they really meant 13V.

They may have addressed it in newer models. They mentioned that they would be making 12V only versions (used by Ariel M/C)
The new ones (Evo) MAY well have buck/boost controllers in - the early ones I suspect were just buck.

I run off relays anyway. Always have done - direct - offloading the h/bar switch.
The issue discovered before PDM60's - Relays fed from fuses - each beam independent fuse - fusebox fed from 70Amp Relay. BIG FAT WIRES.
With PDM60 - the "problem" remains.
The Flicker occurs IF the battery voltage is not 12.8V (OK 12.78V) or above - So really only visible with engine off.
More prevalent in one unit that the other - and yes I swamped wiring etc to check.
As soon as I start - no issues. It was a published issue with them on the interwebthingie.

I now simply start then switch the light relays active via an "extra" switch. I tried a voltage operated switch but it was a bit of a PITA.

The harness I believe is for JEEPS which have a Pulse Width Modulated supply to the headlamps. Too fast to make a halogen flicker - but LEDS will.

Mully - regarding aesthetics - I agree.

The newer series offer an improvement on Main beam - but very little on Dip. Some, but not much.
So their benefit depends on how often you use main beam - I seldom have opportunity.
I decided simply to add two GOOD Fog Lights. Suits my needs better.

As for the Clones - I know too little - and cannot risk use here in €-mark country.

1olbull said:

Wonder if the chrome background enhanses the light a smige???

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Yes a bit - but it will be scatter.

Some light WILL be reflected back from the inner face of the outer glass cover it'll be scattered by the chrome but again it wont all make it out. What does will not be USEABLE at night - might make them glitter a bit more on a dull day.

But Sun glinting off chrome will outshine them anyway.

Is this a good thing? - Only you can decide. I have Black.

barbagris said:

Yes a bit - but it will be scatter.
Some light WILL be reflected back from the inner face of the outer glass cover it'll be scattered by the chrome but again it wont all make it out. What does will not be USEABLE at night - might make them glitter a bit more on a dull day.
But Sun glinting off chrome will outshine them anyway.
Is this a good thing? - Only you can decide. I have Black.

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FYI-
I have had many comments about how bright my Daymakers are in the sunlight and they are the chrome background type.

1olbull said:

FYI-
I have had many comments about how bright my Daymakers are in the sunlight and they are the chrome background type.

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Me too

That's it Mittzy! You posting those pictures is the final straw!!

I'm ordering mine today!

1olbull said:

FYI-
I have had many comments about how bright my Daymakers are in the sunlight and they are the chrome background type.

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well i guess my one chrome is little more functional than the black so i fell better now.
maybe i will buy a black one and have the only black and chrome in the country.

TURBO200R4 said:

well i guess my one chrome is little more functional than the black so i fell better now.
maybe i will buy a black one and have the only black and chrome in the country.

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GOOD idea, Herman!
Buy a set of the blacks and we'll share one each.
Then we'll have a full set of the chromes to sell off.

1olbull said:

FYI-
I have had many comments about how bright my Daymakers are in the sunlight and they are the chrome background type.

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The general comment I get from the Black 8630's is "F**k Me - they're bright" - The blacks will give a harsher contrast in strong sunlight.
Add a pair of Speaker 6150 Fogs and it looks really bl**dy savage closing up. - 2400 real (not raw) lumens on DIP.
According to the missus http://wavcentral.com/sounds/movies/closenc/close03.mp3

1olbull said:

GOOD idea, Herman!
Buy a set of the blacks and we'll share one each.
Then we'll have a full set of the chromes to sell off.

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ordered a set of blacks today they should be here pretty soon.
will let u know when they arrive.
herman

This is the light patteren comparison on the side of the daymaker box. I have not done much night riding since fitting a pair of the lights but from the little I have done there is not doubt about the improved brightness but I am not to sure if there is much improvement in the distance.
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