Darkside/downside

[mexican]

So now everybody is happy no good for ya back..

Do you think that car is the cause of my condition?
Will it help any if i put motorcycle tires on it??

 

[Dennsell]

Do you think that car is the cause of my condition?
Will it help any if i put motorcycle tires on it??

Now ya thinking Mr Mexican... groovy Sir

 

[STRIPES]

It would be interesting to know how a car tire caused an accident. Repetitious hear-say "there have been accidents" is too vague. I would like to know a little more about specifics so I could avoid the problem (other than bowing to nay-sayer wishes for me to remove my ct.)

 

[Dennsell]

Out of Interest

Do we have anyone in West Oz running a CT on their R3 ???

I would like to have a ride on one..

 

[TriumPhil]

It would be interesting to know how a car tire caused an accident. Repetitious hear-say "there have been accidents" is too vague. I would like to know a little more about specifics so I could avoid the problem (other than bowing to nay-sayer wishes for me to remove my ct.)

The bead on a car tire and rim is designed to accept a car tire. The safety bead on a motorcycle tire is designed to seat properly a motorcycle rim. They are not interchangeable for the purpose of optimally or safely fittimg a tire on either type of rim.

The only case that comes to mind on these ownership sites is nitebell's. He clearly experienced catastrophic tire failure, however he doggedly maintains that the failure was due to the Avon Cobra he had fitted on the front rim, which by the way, maintained air pressure, whereas his rear rim and wheel looked like it exploded, undoubtedly causing his tank-slapper and near death experience. Interestingly, he has been "scared straight", averring that he would not be returning to the use of a car tire on the rear because, it seems, his insurance company warned him of the consequences. Anyone else who might have had similar problems are probably either too chicken**** to post their results, i.e. their egos will not allow them to come clean, or, it's a certainty that their insurance company has prohibited them from discussing any aspect of their claim(s) by demanding nondisclosure.

 

[xhdskip]

Anyone else who might have had similar problems are probably either too chicken**** to post their results,
i.e. their egos will not allow them to come clean.

I don't think anyone is "to chicken****" to post negative results phil,
MAYBE THERE JUST HASN'T BEEN ANY NEGATIVE RESULTS...
I know a lot of these guys who I've met in person a time or three,
and out of the lot of us, I don't know anyone who'd NOT say their true feelings,
regardless of pride if they thought it'd save somebody's life.
All your harping like a banchee ain't gonna convince anyone of anything.
We've made our choice, we'll take out licks, and live with the results.
Just like on the religious threads on the other site, nobody is under any illusion
they're gonna change anybody else's mind, IF it happens, great. No one expects it to tho.
We're all big boys, we all make our own choices in life, good or bad,
we take what comes and live with the results or our choices.
Thanks for having an opinion tho and being more civil than usual.

 

[TriumPhil]

Again, for the umpteenth time, Skip, I have always maintained that it is anyone's choice to make. Correct and accurate information will continue to be posted along with the same old Darkside "religious" beliefs so that new Rocketeers can make their own informed decisions with the benefit of having both sides of the story.

I'm not interested in changing folks' minds, which is all but impossible anyway amongst those (mostly Darksiders) who refuse to acknowledge certain facts. There have been bad results and I've done my best to explain why they haven't been publicized. If you choose not to find what 's been stated as credible, well, matters not at all. Ignorance is bliss until it bites you in the ass. Happy trails.

 

[STRIPES]

My bead failure was due to manufacturer defect. A recall letter was issued. It was a big deal. So please do not add my tire failure to your agenda.

 

[azbbqer]

With all the "evidence" posted here, I would hazard an opinion that a class action lawsuit would be in order.
I have seen in various posts that "accedints have been caused by riding a bike on a car tire." "The bead of a car tire is not designed the same as a bead on a motorcycle tire."
"Car tires handle differently that motorcycle tires."
While all of these may or may not be true, it seems to me that with all the accidents occuring due to loss of traction of motorcycle tires, or there rapid deflation caused by premature wear, motorcycle tires are severly underdesigned for their intended purpose. Therefore, maybe some good attorneys would start a class action suit against all the motorcycle tire manufacturers?
The car tire manufacturers have made great strides in making their products safer for the motorist over the past several decades. Most of the "problems" they have redesigned for are to help overcome either faulty installation or neglect of maintainence by the end user. Why is it that we must pay 2 to 3 times the price for a motorcycle tire and not expect at least the same performance that a car tire offers?

Just my questions.

Bye the way, I've been a "darksider" for 5 years and 3 motorcycles. I've NEVER had to replace any of my car tires. Went thru 3 MC tires on the R3T within the first 5K miles.
The first one blew out at 65 mph on the freeway with my wife on the back. I NEVER want to experience that again!

 

[TriumPhil]

My bead failure was due to manufacturer defect. A recall letter was issued. It was a big deal. So please do not add my tire failure to your agenda.

I don't know what agenda you're referring to, nor did I have any prior knowledge of your "bead failure", however the information that I posted earlier about motorcycle and car tire and wheel beads being incompatible is balls-on accurate. You can take or leave those facts as you choose, however that doesn't change their veracity.