Are They fkn kidding ?

[TOMCAT]

Jeezus , never realised what rubbish the whatever they are called are .. I think they look hideous but they don't go hard or go round corners well either .. best we just leave them alone to think their bikes are superior . Sure to get the opportunity to prove our point out on the road .. where it really counts

 

[Greggry]

Suzuki has left the 109r untouched other then paint since its release. This has been virtually the case with all of their bikes since the mid 2000s. They had a lot of opportunities to up the ante with the 109 but they chose to do nothing. The same can be said about the r3 but the latest models are very stout and can make serious power reliabily. You simply can't make a m109r compete with a r3 when it comes to a drag race, dollar for dollar invested the r3 will win. You can't make a m109r outhandle a r3 because it lacks the lean angle to make fast turns. I would have ripped off the exhaust and dumped a 109r taking turns I have with my r3, and I am not a pro rider. Riding 2 up the r3 has that by a long shot, and there are a lot of shock options to make the bike handle anything you want.

All other muscle bikes suffer from the same problems the 109r does, they are good at 2 or 3 things and suck at the other. The Vrod was somewhat of a joke at one point, but it has far surpassed the 109r and with aftermarket parts has become quite a threat on the street. However it is not a good bike for big guys, or riding 2 up on long distances. Its lean angle is also limited although seemed better then the 109. The ducati diavel is a unruly beast that I like, but Its civility on distance trips is non existant, and it is ubsurdly expensive. I rather get a busa or a zx14 and set it up with a nice seat for a lot less (I fit better on them too). The vmax is a beast as well but it sacrafices too much for power and performance at a cost of comfort.

The R3 is the bike I wish harley would have built (I live in milwaukee and its harley country here). A very solid cruiser that has a unexpected power plant. 200hp to 240hp is a easy possibility, which is unreal out of a cruiser engine with reliability. If you want better handling shocks/forks/carbond wheels/sticky tires will give you a lot. If you want better touring bags/windshield/seats will give you that. Harley gets everything right but the power. 35K for a bike that puts 90hp to the tire is hardly thrilling. Once again the Vrod is bad ass but is a small bike and not that great at trips.

I think all of the top 5 muscle bikes look good. 109r, diavel, vrod, vmax, R3, are all bad ass bikes. However only one of them is good at everything I want in a bike, thats the R3.

 

[ponters]

i agree greggry, id till buy a diavel if i wasn't as attached to my bike as i am and the vrod is always in the back of my mind. just wish they made it comfortable enough to ride.

 

[peter k]

This must be pick on T.C. day, he's not the only one that doesn't think much

tc they

Jeezus , never realised what rubbish the whatever they are called are .. I think they look hideous but they don't go hard or go round corners well either .. best we just leave them alone to think their bikes are superior . Sure to get the opportunity to prove our point out on the road .. where it really counts

Tc they are pretty little bikes

 

[ThingKing]

A v-twin should be able to rev up from very low RPM, so you can actually count the explosions, while at the same time accelerating with authority.

My Vulcan 2000 DID that, and it sounded awesome with a mean Vance & Hines exhaust. I loved the evil game of leaving Harleys behind at my discretion, just to let them hear the massive sound of 2000cc from an open muffler

The M109R did NOT do that, because the cardan made strange sounds at low RPM. One would not be able to really let it rumble down low, it would just rattle disturbingly. Then if one let it rev, it would be pretty fast, but not REALLY fast. And it did not handle well.

So I chose the Vulcan 2000, because it is superior to the M109R.
And 3 years later I chose the Rocket over the Vulcan, because this bike finally is the real deal!!
If I meet a M109R on the street, I will have it for lunch, and still be hungry afterwards .

 

[Bat]

I have a mate with one very good rider but alas for him he is just a blur in the mirrors no comparison.

 

[MikeDeY]

Interesting how they all think our bikes are ugly. I love how my bike looks, and am in no way impressed by the m109.

 

[IMFASTTOO]

Don't really disagree with any of the comments except the one about a Rocket being just another bike on the road. M109 is different to other big V twins and about as different to a Rocket as you can get. Not surprised at all that people who own and love them can't get their heads around the look of a Rocket. Good to see @Zofunny speaking up. Haven't seen him around here for a while.

HAD a 109 and drag raced it and still have the record FASTEST and QUICKEST M109 in the world BUT it was no match for a TUNED ROCKET with a proper exhaust and the Rocket handles and stops better SO no contest the big ROCK wins

 

[TriumPhil]

... and really, who frikking cares how others think their bike(s) look? It's all in the eye of the beholder!

 

[my06rocket]

What, they don't like the look of our tail lights?