Advice and Reassurance

[Ezayakyala]

what you didnt ike about V4

- The Diavel is opposite from the Rocket in every way.. and for me I did not enjoy that
- It’s narrow and feels way less substantial between your legs. I loved the feeling of riding the freight train that is the Rocket 3
- Seating position felt half dirt bike/standard and I did not enjoy it.. The Rocket is more relaxed and can be aggressive when you want it to be..
- Stock seat is not comfortable on the Diavel at all for me
- The engine on the Ducati is very race bike derived. It wants to be revd .. and ridden like a sports bike
- After experiencing the low end grunt on the Rocket.. I missed it immensely. Felt like it was more useable at legal speeds than the Diavel
- Stock suspension is hard as a rock..
- Fit and finish is not up to the asking price. Rear passenger seat cover vibrates and looks dumb when riding like its loose but its by design
- Wires and tubes are held on by rubber ties to make them look tidy that just come off from the riding vibrations or washing the bike
- Battery is not easily accessible and requires removing body work to get at
- Within 1 month of owning it .. Radiator fans stopped working bike over heated and went into limp mode in a traffic circle and almost caused a car to rear end me. Fixed under Warranty but COME ON..
- Spent more time in the shop than the actual time I had it in the garage
Did not trust the bike at all after this
- This was on me.. I bought the V4 sight unseen and never test rode it before buying it.. Just got curious about the latest new toy .. I wanted to keep both but I also wanted to keep my marriage
- Way better after market support for the Diavel.. but exhaust options are insanely priced $9000 for an exhaust .. just insanity.

 

[Einar]

- Fit and finish is not up to the asking price. Rear passenger seat cover vibrates and looks dumb when riding like its loose but its by design
- Wires and tubes are held on by rubber ties to make them look tidy that just come off from the riding vibrations or washing the bike
- Battery is not easily accessible and requires removing body work to get at
- Within 1 month of owning it .. Radiator fans stopped working bike over heated and went into limp mode in a traffic circle and almost caused a car to rear end me. Fixed under Warranty but COME ON..
- Spent more time in the shop than the actual time I had it in the garage
Did not trust the bike at all after this

Matches my experience with Ducatis. Beautiful garbage. So far, Triumph has been far more reliable for me, except for a "sealed" fog light that let water in.

 

[Mongler07]

Mine spent 6 months in the shop the first year I owned it. Paid cash, no financing, no help from Triumph or dealer for months and months until I finally hired an attorney and they agreed to refund. Then that very day, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH they found the problem. A fn mazing huh?

At least it's not a HD. Every single one of my riding buddies that have new HDs all say the same thing you went through but worse. 3 years of owning one and it's spent over 12 of those months in the shop for multiple issues with no fixes and long wait times.

 

[Moogus]

If it’s of any help, I owned a Kawasaki 1400GTR. I found that top heavy, a pig to ride at slow speeds and tough to move about the garage.
I’ve owned my 2023 3R for almost a year and put 3k miles on it. It is an absolutely fabulous machine. It handles beautifully, is wonderful to ride, supremely comfortable and a real head turner. It is heavy to push around the garage but with the weight low down, it’s not as bad as the GTR.
Being an old shortie (63 yrs) I can get my feet on the deck and love every moment I’m riding my bike.
Test ride an R and a GT for at least 2 hrs a piece and see how you get on.
Personally this Rocket is the best bike I’ve ever owned, and I’ve had a fair few over my 45 odd years of motorcycling. I won’t be parting with this one.
If you take the plunge, be ready to speak to lots of admirers…..

 

[Tripps]

I'll add my perspective as a long time Ducait owner (from the 80's) going back to the Paso 906. I had several v-twin Diavels and had an xDiavel S. I rode V4s a few times and had thought about trading in my twin. While the V4 might be a touch quicker, I definitely think it lost some of the character of the v-twin. While the tuned it for lower peak power and more mid-range than the Panigale, the v-twin still felt better to me at low revs.

I knew a guy with a Paso, he was on his third or fourth engine, apparently a problem endemic to that model.

 

[Eisenfarn]

Many thanks for the replies. I feel much better about taking the plunge now, only decision I have to make now is which of my current bikes it will replace .

I don't really use my bikes as "Daily Drivers", I use a car for work mostly, I probably do 4-6k on each bike per year. I have a fully equipped workshop, so DIY is not a problem, I do all the work on my current bikes and cars. I use an Abba skylift for some jobs on both bikes, I haven't yet found an adapter to use on the Rocket, is there such a thing?, would be great if I could still use the skylift. The weight is not a big deal, not that much more than the bikes I have.

So now I just have to find the right Rocket

 

[Journeyman]

Many thanks for the replies. I feel much better about taking the plunge now, only decision I have to make now is which of my current bikes it will replace .

I don't really use my bikes as "Daily Drivers", I use a car for work mostly, I probably do 4-6k on each bike per year. I have a fully equipped workshop, so DIY is not a problem, I do all the work on my current bikes and cars. I use an Abba skylift for some jobs on both bikes, I haven't yet found an adapter to use on the Rocket, is there such a thing?, would be great if I could still use the skylift. The weight is not a big deal, not that much more than the bikes I have.

So now I just have to find the right Rocket

I wasn't going to chime in, as I think that nearly all has been covered. But you just said DIY is not a problem, so here's the answer to "valve clearances can cost around a grand (maybe to check- more to swap shims) and need to be done every 20k" question you had.....

A look at the 2.5 Innards - DIY 20K mile service, including valve clearance check and shim replacement

Part 3 Check valve clearances. Remember that the decompressors will throw off the readings on the adjacent exhaust valves. Simply rotate the decompressors so that they do not press down on the bucket, then take your reading. If you're out of tolerance the easiest thing to do (if you don't...

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