A Labor of Love; aka building a Rocket III Speedster

Busy beaver you be, Amigo.
Spending nite in Hanksville, UT.
Reminisced our ride through here all day. The little ferry from Halls Landing to Bill Frog is now closed for good. 😣 They now have open range on many of the best twisties and dodging black cows was a *****!
I'll say hello to Moki Dugway for you tomorrow on way to Mexican Hat.
Hope to see @BreezDavid in Mexican Hat as well.
 
Ah cool, sounds like a great trip. Shame about the ferry, was a cool experience riding a ferry in the middle of a desert whilst on a "highway" haha. Say hi to Breeze for me.

Trying to push this project to a "waiting on things that aren't me" point so I can start on the other project. That will be the first true restoration I've done and I'm chomping at the bit to bring it back to life.
 
So progress continues.

- All valves clearances done and centered around .14mm intake and .2mm exhaust.
- New cam timing dialed in.
- I found an improved method and some errors in my previous work.

By removing the stator cover, I put my 12" timing wheel against the back of the flywheel, conveniently, the center bolt is about the same size as my wheel cutout is. Then clamped it in place using some very strong/large N55 neo magnets (strong enough to blood blister skin should you get pinched). Far more accurate than using the brass rod and the wheel stuck out of the nose of the crank, zero deflection unlike the brass rod.

I'm also doing it with the engine out of the frame, so I can get better mounting angles on the dial indicator with shorter rods, meaning less flex and more accurate readings.

As a result I found some inconsistencies with my previously dialed in timing vs what I thought I had dialed in.

This few degree change will reduce dynamic compression ratio a tiny bit and shift power UP in RPM and a touch more, while better matching piston movement, so should be a net gain almost everywhere as LCA is now more complementary to the build. I suspect this is why I didn't net the gains I expected a couple years ago, and this should yield an even smoother running/idling engine.The idea is to move power upwards a bit, to peak at 8000 instead of 7850/7900ish. Then, use harmonics to resolve some of the drawbacks of moving power further up, instead of a harmonic 6th I'm going to try and target getting the harmonic 3rd at 8000
In theory, this will yield more and stronger harmonic events below peak torque, meaning more and smoother torque curve as well as bringing in a much stronger reflection event at 8000, where previously it was about 25% as strong an event at 7800.As a result it will hopefully make more torque everywhere below 4500 and above 6000, with the 4500-6000 range being mostly the same.


Having been given some advice and doing further reading I've realized what I intended to do would've been a mistake and have my final numbers for the Cams in hand, will be dialing them in.

Also, this arrived. Bigger than I thought and heavier as well due to the metal housing.
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Thinking on and looking at Cam timing events and ways to gain more power than I had previously, I think I've arrived at the conclusion that getting much past 260whp on a rocket III, with the air filter in place, on normal pump fuel, on the 2WDW dyno, starts to get into the region of compromising dynamics to the point it no longer makes sense as a street bike. To make a meaningful amount (+10hp or greater) more power requires taking it away from other areas or incurs maintenance and financial cost more than I'm willing to do.

TLDR: I'm finally going to stop chasing more than 260ish whp. I do think a 280-290 is very possible, but would compromise rideability as a street bike.

Looking at the numbers again and refining some data, I think I've finally arrived at some conclusions:

- The easiest "free" power is a swap from mechanical water pump to electric water pump.

- Parasitic drag/friction could be improved through various techniques and parts replacements. WPC coatings, specialized polishing, better bearings, lighter components etc could all free lost power. The costs for this stuff add up incredibly quickly for rather small gains and most of them incur a more frequent maintenance schedule.

- I was already hitting 3rd Harmonic resonance events on the intake side using my curved stacks and PX500 setup, there's nothing to be gained here. Adding a plenum fills in more power below 5000 rpm, but takes some away over 6000 rpm. Changes in runner length simply move the power around, but no specific length will make more overall.

- There's not much to be gained on cam duration, the current duration already starts to cut into the running dynamics below 3000 rpm and much more would make it a much worse street bike imho

- The head is the main flow restriction. The intake valve curtain area is the main reason I seem to have gotten stuck in the mid 250 range for whp. This could be improved in two ways, adjusting the pinch point diameter/seat cut in the bowl and/or using more cam lift. Cam lift is already restricted by valve guide space, leaving, only the bowl and valve seat adjustments to improve flow efficiency. This is not something I'm interested in doing at this time; perhaps in the future I'll send the head to Millennium Tech to get work done in that area. I think Bob did a good job already and improvements that can be made are very specialized. I believe this to be the cause of the sinewave like curves in my torque output from 4500-6500 rpm. No change to exhaust (I've tried 3), no change to intake (I've tried like 5 setups) smooths it out. Cam change didn't smooth it. More and less ignition timing doesn't smooth it. The only remaining possibility I'm aware of becomes valve curtain/bowl/seat angle/tulip interaction.

- Valve shape and back-cut. The exhaust valves aren't bad, the factory did good work here, but there's a bit of room to improve them by back cutting and adjusting the shape of the back of the valve. The intake valves on the other hand, have big fat tulip shapes that certainly impede flow. This is probably the single biggest area left for improvement on a 265 kit head. By replacing the valve guides with 5mm ID and machining the valves down to a 5mm stem instead of 5.4mm more could be gained, but this is not trivial effort stuff.

- The exhaust, does actually have a little room to improve it's just shy of hitting the perfect 3rd harmonic on exhaust tuning, however, packaging and design make this impractical and this is a small improvement. Truly equal length runners that are 3.175mm larger ID with 595mm primaries paired with an 800mm collector (including the reverse megaphone at 13") are the ideal for over 6000 rpm operation, the reality is the 2.5" collector LMS header paired to a 15" reverse megaphone is so close to perfect it's not worth the compromises to adjust and the existing system provides better power from 2000-6000 than the ideal high rpm setup would. Additionally, building a stepped header design that incorporates all of the adjustments would be an absolutely massive increase in production effort and not reasonable for a less than factory supported build.

In the end, I've learned more about NA power than I ever could have expected since I bought the bike in September 2014, but I know there remains a lot I don't know, thankfully we have people like Neville in the community who are gracious enough to give nudges in the correct direction. In the future, I'll probably build another engine and go all in, starting from scratch on the head and valvetrain, but that's an adventure for future me, after I finish school and have more resources than time and can afford to have multiple heads sent to a specialist to be flow benched with various configurations to find ideal numbers for seat angle, bowl size, valve size, runner size etc.
 
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In regards to parasitic losses, are you running the stock piston ring sizes? More narrow ring packages are becomming popular in high performance engines. Most of them are in the 1mm, 1mm, 2mm size. They seem to offer measurable reductions in ring/cylinder wall friction, increasing net power.
 
I didn't install the pistons so I can't say as a certainty how they're designed...but;

CP were early adopters of low friction rings and had the expansion groove between 1st and 2nd ring years ago, as well as lateral gas ports.

I'm not positive what options these have, but looking back through my notes, CP confirmed on the phone in 2019 they're 11:1 with a stock head and a 6.3cc dome volume, net (after valve reliefs accounted for).

I have been toying with the idea of getting some JE Ultra line pistons cut in 11.25:1 and using the 11:1 CPs in my silver engine. Did I not mention the silver engine build that's also in progress, as they will net about 10:1 in it☺️

Hint: 6758

EDIT: I found a document in my pictures from 2018, it is the custom order form for pistons from Carpenter to CP, no idea how I got it at all, I have zero recollection of it. Was digging through my old pictures so I could find my piston order # they engrave on the pin tower so I can get some info.
Top and 2nd ring are ~1.2mm
gas expansion port is indeed included
no coatings
no lateral gas ports
 
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As far as progress....I finally freed the swingarm from my spare 2005 frame. That poor bike was owned by someone who heard of gas, tires, oil bikes and simply decided the oil part (and spline lubrication) was optional.

I've never, in my life, even seen pictures of the level of staining from lack of oil changes like it has. I had to pry the drive shaft off the output using an 18" tire spoon..on Mufasa it slid right off.

Here's what the drive shaft teeth look like. Owner was lucky 2nd gear died before this finished and caused a crash.

It doesn't really come through in the picture but there are actual sharp knife edges on each spline, it was probably going to be done at the very next hard launch.
 

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Confirmed today 10x1.25 thread for the oil sender orifice. I ...may... Have broken it off in the head, luckily it was easy to get out and I'm not going to use the stock switch style sender.

I also learned something I never knew today LMAO. I've always used the dual dots on the crank window to align TDC... Apparently there's another dot?! Not sure I'd trust this dot as the keyway has play, meaning the dot can be off, but it's there ...

I wish I'd known this 4 years ago...
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