3800 Lumen H4 LED Headlight

[R-III-R Turbo]

I have been trying to align the headlights on my garage door, but the light scatters much more than the h4 bulbs. Any ideas on making sure they are aligned properly?

i fitted an o-ring between the LED unit's 'bulb' and the H4 shape metal bezel - this moves the bulb inwards slightly in the reflector without compromising the way the bulb sits into the lamp, changing the angle the light hits the reflector at to be more acute.
i also adjusted the whole headlight units downward a little too from what it was with the stock setup. for those of us with a flyscreen/sports screen or maybe just the mounting kit for them, i swapped out the hex head bolts for some cup head Allen bolts.
this gave some extra clearance to turn the lamps downward a little (they were almost touching the old bolt heads from stock setup)

so anyhoooo here are the results in picture format; the difference is diluted somewhat due to some lights in the carpark working this time, and a pool of water, but you get the idea. much better focus of the light to in front of you, and not as high up the wall either.

If you are using a LED bulb in a reflector designed for a H4 bulb you will never get the headlamp aligned

please see above

 

[TheRedBaron]

i fitted an o-ring between the LED unit's 'bulb' and the H4 shape metal bezel - this moves the bulb inwards slightly in the reflector without compromising the way the bulb sits into the lamp, changing the angle the light hits the reflector at to be more acute.




That's quite a difference I was tempted to try out the smaller of the two collars, that they provide, but haven't got around to it. But, if that is the difference, with just an 'O' ring, then maybe the collars wouldn't work as well...?

 

[cr0ft]

i fitted an o-ring between the LED unit's 'bulb' and the H4 shape metal bezel - this moves the bulb inwards slightly in the reflector without compromising the way the bulb sits into the lamp, changing the angle the light hits the reflector at to be more acute.
i also adjusted the whole headlight units downward a little too from what it was with the stock setup. for those of us with a flyscreen/sports screen or maybe just the mounting kit for them, i swapped out the hex head bolts for some cup head Allen bolts.
this gave some extra clearance to turn the lamps downward a little (they were almost touching the old bolt heads from stock setup)

so anyhoooo here are the results in picture format; the difference is diluted somewhat due to some lights in the carpark working this time, and a pool of water, but you get the idea. much better focus of the light to in front of you, and not as high up the wall either.






please see above

I think that looks horrible. You're definitely still blinding oncoming motorists with that setup. The high beam isn't important because that's not on when you're meeting others on the road (unless the rider is a MASSIVE douchebag, brights on in the daytime is a bad idea with halogens and utterly antisocial with LED)

But the low beam cutoff needs to be razor sharp and there needs to be next to no light over it on low beam. These photos show that the lights are putting enormous amounts of light high up on the pillars to the left, which is where oncoming traffic comes and where people sit in cars.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe..._light_pattern_for_right-hand_traffic.svg.png - this is what you want to have. And you're nowhere even in the vicinity of that with yours, from what I can tell.

As I've harped on before, all these retrofits that aren't whole-reflector retrofits are illegal, and they're illegal for this reason. Just seeing well isn't enough, seeing well without being a danger in traffic is the goal.

 

[TheRedBaron]

As I've harped on before, all these retrofits that aren't whole-reflector retrofits are illegal, and they're illegal for this reason. Just seeing well isn't enough, seeing well without being a danger in traffic is the goal.[/QUOTE]

Steady on...I agree with you, my intention is not to be unlawful, or to cause other road users, some of which might be brother bikers, any undue distress.

However, the OEM lights are obviously less than adequate...so who's fault is that, mine, for buying a Triumph Rocket? The best bike I've had the pleasure to own and the most fun I've ever had?

Look, FFS, isn't this what a Forum is all about? To exchange ideas and experiences? To pool resources and levels of expertise?

For example, I bought and fitted the Cyclops LED bulbs, having read advice from r3o. Realigned them...GREAT! Bought and fitted a rear/brake LED bulb...FANTASTIC! Bought and fitted LED indicator (turn signal) bulbs. They all flashed on alarm deactivation and worked perfectly, without ignition. When I ventured out the next day, they didn't work. Why would I entertain the idea, that they wouldn't work?

I searched on here and discovered that I needed to change the relay. Perfect, I didn't know that, with the limitations of my knowledge and experience, I would never have known that, but you 'brothers', on this forum, helped me out. Thank you so much, that's what attracted me here, in the first place

But there are still those amongst us that bicker and troll, sit in the background and make snide, smug comments regarding misunderstandings, misinterpretations and lack of experience. Why?
I'm here for knowledge and the truth...and if I can help along the way, then that's me. The rest of you can Foxtrot Oscar, or I will.

Sonny Burger and those that heralded biking in the early days, made adjustments to their Harleys, that HD took notice of, why can't we endeavour to be Triumph's R&D in the field?

Anyway, no disrespect meant you any other OMG, plus I'm halfway through food and typing this on my cell/mobile/handy.
Peace

 

[R-III-R Turbo]

I think that looks horrible. You're definitely still blinding oncoming motorists with that setup. The high beam isn't important because that's not on when you're meeting others on the road (unless the rider is a MASSIVE douchebag, brights on in the daytime is a bad idea with halogens and utterly antisocial with LED)

But the low beam cutoff needs to be razor sharp and there needs to be next to no light over it on low beam. These photos show that the lights are putting enormous amounts of light high up on the pillars to the left, which is where oncoming traffic comes and where people sit in cars.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe..._light_pattern_for_right-hand_traffic.svg.png - this is what you want to have. And you're nowhere even in the vicinity of that with yours, from what I can tell.

As I've harped on before, all these retrofits that aren't whole-reflector retrofits are illegal, and they're illegal for this reason. Just seeing well isn't enough, seeing well without being a danger in traffic is the goal.

FAIL

 

[Rango]

WOW cr0ft Living Legend,
We have a guy offering help with and information, pics etc on how we can achieve better light and you chop him down like a tall poppy???

 

[TheRedBaron]

Please take a look at these. Has anyone fitted them? Are they as good as they claim? They look better than the Cyclops I'm currently running.

Triumph fit L.E.D Headlights "plug & play"

 

[1K9]

I think my headlamps are not adjusted properly. I think that they are too high and i might be bothering oncoming traffic and of traffic in front of me. Is there set up that will yield the best illumination? Don't ride at night much at all but i can see traffic signs being lit as I drive in the day while in low beams. I think they are off. Any suggestions?

 

[WyldCFH]

I think my headlamps are not adjusted properly. I think that they are too high and i might be bothering oncoming traffic and of traffic in front of me. Is there set up that will yield the best illumination? Don't ride at night much at all but i can see traffic signs being lit as I drive in the day while in low beams. I think they are off. Any suggestions?

Try this... Headwinds: Q: How To Aim a Headlight

 

[1K9]

Wyld; Thank you for the reply. Maaan... It looks complicated Will have to contemplate it tomorrow when I'm sober

My R3 Classic has two headlamps.