To do, or not to do? That is the question.

You're the first I've seen running 245, how is that working for you?
Works Great have no issues at all just misses the swingarm on the driveshaft side handles the twisties great, and changes direction lightning fast, there is a lot crap about it making them slower to respond but it is just crap the speed reads almost identical to a metz. I am running a 245/50/16 now with Std height Shocks the last tyre was a 245/55/16(it corrected the speedo almost completely and in effect mean't I had higher gearing but damage to wiring in under the rear guard wasn't worth it) with same shocks it would occasionally hit the inside of the rear guard, getting longer shocks would have solved this but is much easier and cheaper to just stick to a 50 profile. I would be happy to take on any body up the mountain with a Metz that thought they could out handle the 245/50 DS (I had the Metz leting go and sliding at lesser lean angles than I go now):cool:
 
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This video starts out watching a supercharged Rocket with a car tire from a tail camera.

Sorry the road was a bit rough for the way the camera was mounted.

You can see the rider, Ty...aka...RiderRocketman shifting his weight to minimize excessive leaning and scraping.

The R3 will handle with more "flickability" with a motorcycle tire but a car tire will not limit the amount that you can lean over.

With a bike tire it is a smoother transition. If you watch closely, in the video, you will see the change from being on flat part to being on edge.

It really comes down to personal preference...there are pros & cons both ways.

For me, the best Rocket Roadster rear tire is a motorcycle tire...Bridgestone Excedra Max
240/55 R16
that would have been the worst example I have seen and the camera bike rider was slowing him down resulting in him having to constantly change lines to avoid running up his arse. there time he also exagerated the body movement I think he was bored at the slow pace behind the camera bike and was just pretending to be having to through his body around never was he at any extreme angles. as I said poor example of him riding there are far better vids of him out there, as far as your bridestone goes I be happy show you how inferior it is in the wet against a DS, also there is no transtion issues as I said he was exagerating:rolleyes:
 
To do or not to do??????

Try it!!! Thats the only way to know. If you give yourself enough time to play with the psi, find the sweet spot and try out some of your favorite roads you will know without a doubt.
Car tire is about a third of what you will pay for a Metz.
 
Another Option

I have been running the Bridgestone Excedra Max 240/55-16 - American Motorcycle Tire

It is a little taller than the stock Metz which translates to more cornering clearance. Wear so far is up to 8000+ miles with another 1K probably left. The best part is that they can be had for $170.00. While this is not as cheap as a DS, you don't have to give up the excellent handling characteristics of a MC tire on this big sportbike. I'm not a DS basher, I have tried them twice and just found that they are not for me. I do not like the way a car tire grabs the cracks and the low spots in the road. It makes you wonder where the bike is going to go especially when coming up to a stop sign or on a rough patch. There are those out there that can run a car tire as quick as me scraping pegs and all, but at the end of the day, they are flat worn out on a twisty run from all the countersteering (pressure on the bars) that you have to do to keep the DS in the corner. Now that said, I love the way a car tire handles in the wet. You can flatout stand on the brake and it won't skid. it will **** near throw you over the handlebars. I have actually been looking for a second rim so that I can mount a car tire on the bike when I take trips that will mostly be Interstate oriented. I'ts great if you are doing that.
 
nope, the center went first on all mine.
like it just melted away.
Still had plenty of tread o the sides, just nothing in the middle.
Hanso is right about the video.
Ty had a sweet bike too.
Hated seeing him part her out on e-bay....
 
Mr. Smith:

I rode on the Darkside for 25,000+ miles on two VTX 1800s and for about 7,000 miles on my Rocket. I've owned about 15 motorcycles, ridden hundreds of different makes., models and types since I began to ride some 46 years ago and I am an occasionally aggressive rider who sometimes enjoys pushing the envelope a bit.

Here's the truth:

No car tire made is designed to conform to the bead on a motorcycle tire rim. If you experience a tire failure with a car tire on the rear of any motorcycle with a motorcycle rim, there's a very good chance that the tire will separate from the rim.

Most, if not all car tires will ride on their sidewalls to some extent, some more than others, when cornered and leaned over hard. There is nothing, other than a thin sliver of un-reinforced rubber, between you and potential disaster, especially if you push a car tire hard on our bikes. I won't speak for others here, but for me, ignorance of that fact is simply unintelligent. this particular risk is nonexistent with a motorcycle tire. Others here play with a wide range of tire pressures to try to diminish this and other effects or consequences of running on a car tire. I'm not interested in the gamble, thank you.

A car tire on this bike will absolutely rob you of rear wheel horsepower and torque... no me interesante!

A car tire on the rear will more than likely cause irregular or premature wear of your front tire, more than likely killing a good part of the argument that a car tire will save you money. Additionally, a number of folks running on the Darkside have gone down with bad tank slappers or due to self-reported low to high speed shakes and wobbles, more than likely caused by the use of improper tires and the aforementioned unusual wear they cause on the front tire. Some of such mishaps may be attributed to how all that extra contact patch of the car tire can grab a bad camber in a roadway, pavement grooves, gratings or other irregularities which the roads ahead often throw at riders unexpectedly. I and many others I know suspect that other, maybe most accidents caused or contributed to by the use of car tires go unreported or are not publicized for several reasons that should be obvious to most seasoned motorcyclists.

Any car tire will slow down a bikes response time when you try to react to any unforeseen, emergency-type situation requiring a quick, evasive maneuver, possibly making the difference between a safe escape or a very bad result.

All car tires will necessitate greater and more constant rider input and countersteering effort. That can be tiring.

No motorcycle sporting a car tire on the rear will steer as easily or be as flickable or responsive as that same bike shod with a motorcycle tire. To do so would defy several laws of physics and the professional opinions of literally any motorcycle or tire expert or engineer you might care to consult. Despite the ardent opinions of the devotees here and elsewhere, I can tell you with 100% assurance that the experts are right and that their expertise is based on hard facts and experience.. Naturally, that is just my (unwavering) humble opinion.

The cost of our rear tires has come down considerably just in the last year. I recently bought the B'stone Exedra Max for about $155 delivered to my door by denniskirk.com, so the dollar saving argument is diminishing rapidly over time. In most cases, the perceived dollar savings argument is further diminished by the parasitic effect of the larger, heavier car tire on rear wheel power and, hence, overall fuel efficiency.

Many if not most aggressive riding darksiders will have to replace their CT by about 15K miles due to sidewall scuffing and wear. The Metzeler, properly ridden on decent quality roads and normally maintained should last at least 8-10K miles and the Exedra Max should deliver 25-40% more mileage if utilized properly. Should you do most of your riding on straight roads and if you don't enjoy playing in the twisties, obviously, this will be of lesser concern for you.

Other than for those few things, I think car tires are great... for my cars.:D
 
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