Stopping distance

[hoopla]

I've looked everywhere, here, triumph, general google search, no data on braking performance. Has anybody done any testing? Car come with standardized tests for braking usually at 60 mph. My car with with Brembo brakes up front can under testing conditions stop in 106 ft. The usual is 120-140 for most cars. Anyways it would be good to know what the braking limitations are of the beast. Those huge front breaks with antilock should be able to pull down rather quickly I would thinks. Maybe we need to do some tests!!

Thanks

Hoopla

 

[albertaduke]

I've looked everywhere, here, triumph, general google search, no data on braking performance. Has anybody done any testing? Car come with standardized tests for braking usually at 60 mph. My car with with Brembo brakes up front can under testing conditions stop in 106 ft. The usual is 120-140 for most cars. Anyways it would be good to know what the braking limitations are of the beast. Those huge front breaks with antilock should be able to pull down rather quickly I would thinks. Maybe we need to do some tests!!

Thanks

Hoopla

been done somewhere comparing triumph brakes versus beringer brakes complete with all tec infodistance .

 

[scot in exile]

Your stopping distance is not to bad but could be better -practice practice practice, the average rider and below will generate a 1/2G in a quick stop situation, above average will generate a full 1G maybe a wee bit more , as you are riding an ABS bike you should be able to lower that stopping distance.
Remember not all the time will brakes save your rear end practice your swerving also, when I say you I mean everyone.

 

[1olbull]

I've looked everywhere, here, triumph, general google search, no data on braking performance. Has anybody done any testing? Car come with standardized tests for braking usually at 60 mph. My car with with Brembo brakes up front can under testing conditions stop in 106 ft. The usual is 120-140 for most cars. Anyways it would be good to know what the braking limitations are of the beast. Those huge front breaks with antilock should be able to pull down rather quickly I would thinks. Maybe we need to do some tests!!
Thanks
Hoopla

Hoopla,
If you are actually saying your car can stop from 60 mph in 106 feet, that is EXCELLENT! Most roadways will allow only .74g to .8g and your numbers calculate to 1.13g!!! In 47 years of collision investigation, I have never seen this from a car.
Testing on motors is fraught with inconsistency because of the skills necessary. I and other motor cops have generated a tad over 1g in test circumstances, but real world motor brake testing has shown average riders develop only about .55g to .65g. ABS improves the "average" rider stopping considerably, up to about .75g. For example, using the outside numbers of .55g and .75g, from 60 mph the stopping distances would be 218 feet and 160 feet respectively! NOTE: this does NOT include perception response time which would add 1.5 to 2 seconds at 60 mph to your total distance.
HTH

 

[dealer]

I've looked everywhere, here, triumph, general google search, no data on braking performance. Has anybody done any testing? Car come with standardized tests for braking usually at 60 mph. My car with with Brembo brakes up front can under testing conditions stop in 106 ft. The usual is 120-140 for most cars. Anyways it would be good to know what the braking limitations are of the beast. Those huge front breaks with antilock should be able to pull down rather quickly I would thinks. Maybe we need to do some tests!!

Thanks

Hoopla

According to the dec 2004 motorcycle consumer news, stoping distance 60-0 mph is 129.1 ft.

 

[1olbull]

According to the dec 2004 motorcycle consumer news, stoping distance 60-0 mph is 129.1 ft.

Tis much better. Still pretty high at .93g, but these tests are done by professionals on a closed track, usually a drag strip.

 

[hoopla]

Yes these tests have to be under controlled conditions for them to mean anything at all. You probably know that they are usually done dry and wet, wet being significantly worse.
The tire design also plays an important part too, as well as the tread depth. Of course the driver is the all important aspect of the whole picture and as you have indicated practice under extreme circumstances is necesary to develope the necesary skills to stop the beast. The road surface is the other extreme variable that is totally out of our control.
I fully intend to put the metzlers to the test and probably ruin the front early on, then move on to Avons. It's good to know that the beast is capable of stopping in 129 ft.
Aside from braking, the other aspect I always keep in mind is the 2 second rule for following traffic. Braking becomes much more important when an object such as a deer suddenly appears. Night riding can be very enjoyable and I'll be upgrading my headlights soon. Therefore explaining my interest is braking ability. I'm liking the TruBeam lights for better illumination.

thanks for all of your inputs

Hoopla

 

[Boog]

@hoopla I conducted an operational test of the emergency braking system on my 2014 R3T about 2 years ago. It took some time to set the conditions just right. I needed two cars ahead of me to collide and start spinning out of control with no escape route for me and the bike on the interstate. I needed them to collide at a time that I was caught off guard so as to be a total surprise. When the test team saw conditions were perfect, they caused to two cars to engage in their portion of the event and I instinctually applied just enough force to cause the ABS to kick in on both tires (I may or may not have squeezed all the black juice out of the grips). I forgot to start my clock but my guess is I was stopped within ~2 seconds from 85 mph indicated on the speedometer. Unfortunately, the test team didn't give me any information as to how long the distance was, but it was good enough that I did not become a statistic.

I hope that helps...

 

[cr0ft]

Yep, that story is exactly why anyone who says ABS is optional or that you can live without it is full of ****.

In a panic situation, you're not going to be calm and modulating your brakes perfectly, you're going to scream like a little girl and pull as hard on both brakes as you can, and most often wind up dropping the bike. I'm a bit bummed my bike doesn't have it, but I couldn't resist the deal on it.

 

[hoopla]

@hoopla I conducted an operational test of the emergency braking system on my 2014 R3T about 2 years ago. It took some time to set the conditions just right. I needed two cars ahead of me to collide and start spinning out of control with no escape route for me and the bike on the interstate. I needed them to collide at a time that I was caught off guard so as to be a total surprise. When the test team saw conditions were perfect, they caused to two cars to engage in their portion of the event and I instinctually applied just enough force to cause the ABS to kick in on both tires (I may or may not have squeezed all the black juice out of the grips). I forgot to start my clock but my guess is I was stopped within ~2 seconds from 85 mph indicated on the speedometer. Unfortunately, the test team didn't give me any information as to how long the distance was, but it was good enough that I did not become a statistic.

Darned impressive!! What kind of tires are you running? ABS saves souls! These Brembo type brakes, ABS and great tires are just wonderful. Keep the 2 second rule in mind, always!!