R3T derestricting

R3T-Too said:

The R3T stock or slip-on tune is available for download on the TuneEcu site.
Link here: Triumph_Custom_Tune_list. 3 & 4 Cyl. models

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The link does work, but if you don't scroll down, you won't see the files/maps. But if you click on the navigation link in the upper left corner, (it says T_OEM 3/4 cyl maps) a link showing obsolete maps shows up (which of course brings up a bunch of old maps), so I think this is what Deckerhead was referring to. Maybe a little easy to get confused as to which is which, so I'm curious myself.
That being said, as per the link provided above, is the correct map 'R3T stock or slip on.zip'? The one provided by Power-Tripp? The other one I came across, under the T_OEM_3/4_cyl link is 20367map.zip. This is an older file tho, but which one is appropriate?

As well, has there been any change as to which cable is the one to use? The Lonelec one? Diagnostic Interface for TuneECU Motorbikes
Or this one? www.amazon.com/Cable-Triumph-Motorcycle-TuneECU-Program/dp/B003ZKKMLE

The map that's discussed in this thread is the one listed as "R3T Stock or slipon". With a description by Wayne Tripp that closely resembles the first post of this thread.

I would buy the Lonelec cable. Some people have had luck buying off Amazon; others got junk.
I have heard no complaints from people who bought from Lonelec.

Scott

I'm diving into this tuning adventure this weekend and would just like some clarification/assurance. I have a completely stock 2015 R3T and I am using TuneEcu. I found 2 tunes on the TuneEcu site so do I load the 20367Map.hex or the R3T_stock_or_slip-on.hex? Is there a newer/updated tune? Any "gotchas" that are not listed in the directions I should be aware of?

Thanks

I surely recommend the tune I have from @HansO . He gave me one that wakes up the R3T, and yet, is leaned a bit below 3000 RPM -- my normal cruise around here [70 MPH speed limit, McCruise set at 72 MPH with +/- 1 over/underrun -- running at 2,880 RPM indicated] yields 34.1 mpg on a full tank yesterday, and hot diggity dawg I'm happy with that -- the added throttle response and roughly same mileage I was seeing stock.

Of course, I have RAMAir on the front end, a Paul Bryant header with Dain slip-on out the rear.

Joesmoe said:

I surely recommend the tune I have from @HansO . He gave me one that wakes up the R3T, and yet, is leaned a bit below 3000 RPM -- my normal cruise around here [70 MPH speed limit, McCruise set at 72 MPH with +/- 1 over/underrun -- running at 2,880 RPM indicated] yields 34.1 mpg on a full tank yesterday, and hot diggity dawg I'm happy with that -- the added throttle response and roughly same mileage I was seeing stock.

Of course, I have RAMAir on the front end, a Paul Bryant header with Dain slip-on out the rear.

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How would one get the tune from HansO? Is it still applicable for a stock setup? As well, there shouldn't be any I'll effects from trying a couple different tunes?

First, you need to describe if your machine is stock, or you've modified the intake and/or exhaust in any way.

Hans has produced a number of tunes to get the best performance out of a bunch of different configurations.

Once you list that (in detail), then folks can offer their tune.

I would hazard a guess that no ill effects from trying different ones. The stock ECU map is already restricted, and the various maps floating around are almost all adding fuel.

So the only issue is using more fuel and perhaps not meeting the emissions test if you have them in your jurisdiction.

And on the subject of the cable, I recommend ONLY the LonElec version.

Thanks for posting this. I've read through about 20 pages of this thread and I hate to admit it but I'm a bit confused. I know it will be very simple once I've done it once but I want to make sure I understand the everything so I don't mess something up. I've done literally all the work on every vehicle I've owned since the 1960s but remapping an ECU is something I've never done. I do have TuneECU but haven't loaded it unto my laptop yet.

Does this tune also remove the rev limiter or is that something I would have to do separately?

Also, after watching a video on loading maps with TuneECU, I see there's some boxes for devices that I may have to check or uncheck. Can someone tell me what should be checked and unchecked. I have a 2015 R3T that is running it's factory tune. I've made no performance changes to the bike. It's stock.

Dumb question but I don't see the attached tune. How do I get that?

No dumb questions in this topic.

And not simple, even when you've done it.

As mentioned elsewhere, TuneECU is just part of it. You also need the LonElec cable in order for TuneECU to talk to your bike (the bike's ECU).

ECU fuel mapping is complex and not for the faint of heart. There are only a handful of folks intrepid enough to do it, and even fewer willing to share.

Please remember, this is equivalent to a set of athletes discussing improving performance by open heart surgery. Sure, anyone can handle a scalpel, and a few might even be able to handle the anesthesia - but to actually help and not kill in the process would be a tall order.

Similarly, on this site, only one person currently wears the mantle of "knows enough, cares enough, communicates well enough, and has the necessary positive outlook on life, has the necessary patience, to tinker with the ECU fuel air mapping and get it just about right most of the time" - he goes by HansO - and is currently on the mend from a bad spill recently, because, life happens.

So, suggest you purchase the LonElec cable, and confirm you have connectivity between your laptop and the ECU, and get familiar with it.

Then come back here, and I suggest you follow the advice from post 466 -- the one just above yours. Be prepared to discuss what are your goals, and folks will be more than happy to help you with this brave new world.

Or you could take it to Carpenter Racing, they'll wake it up a bit for you.

Joesmoe said:

No dumb questions in this topic.

And not simple, even when you've done it.

As mentioned elsewhere, TuneECU is just part of it. You also need the LonElec cable in order for TuneECU to talk to your bike (the bike's ECU).

ECU fuel mapping is complex and not for the faint of heart. There are only a handful of folks intrepid enough to do it, and even fewer willing to share.

Please remember, this is equivalent to a set of athletes discussing improving performance by open heart surgery. Sure, anyone can handle a scalpel, and a few might even be able to handle the anesthesia - but to actually help and not kill in the process would be a tall order.

Similarly, on this site, only one person currently wears the mantle of "knows enough, cares enough, communicates well enough, and has the necessary positive outlook on life, has the necessary patience, to tinker with the ECU fuel air mapping and get it just about right most of the time" - he goes by HansO - and is currently on the mend from a bad spill recently, because, life happens.

So, suggest you purchase the LonElec cable, and confirm you have connectivity between your laptop and the ECU, and get familiar with it.

Then come back here, and I suggest you follow the advice from post 466 -- the one just above yours. Be prepared to discuss what are your goals, and folks will be more than happy to help you with this brave new world.

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I have the Lonelec cable.

From the bit of research I've done so far, it really doesn't seem like this is "only for a handful folks intrepid enough to do it." I'm a very experienced mechanic but I'm new to remapping ECU's, ,that's all. Remember, when I said I was going to change my tires, you said I must be brave to do that. I did it and it was really quite easy. What I'm saying is that I don't hesitate to do anything on a machine as long as I understand what I'm doing and I just haven't re-mapped an ECU before. No big deal. As I said, I've always done ALL my work on every vehicle I've ever owned. Before I was an engineer, I was also a technician working on literally hundreds of different machines with just about every sort of system imagineable but that was before ECUs on vehicles. There's no need for warnings when I mention doing a job. I'm just looking for the information I'm asking for.

Just scanning over this thread is proof that lots of people are obviously remapping their ECUs including newbies to this. After all, we're just talking about downloading and uploading software. Also, I watched the process (but with a different bike) on a couple YouTube videos and it seems about as simple as it gets and not something only the "intrepid" would undertake.

Anyway, I did mention what my goals are. As I said, I have a stock R3T with no changes to the map and no performance modifications. The bike is totally stock. I want to remove the rev limiter and I would like to load up the map mentioned in the very first post of this thread unless there's a better one now. Very simple. Nothing fancy. I don't see how to download that map, though. Maybe it's no longer attached (?).

BTW, the guy who started this thread seems like he REALLY knows what he's talking about. I was just looking for more basic "how to" information - like simple step-by-step instructions before doing it. That's all.

Anyway, back to my original question: Does the tune that started this thread remove the rev limiter and what device boxes should be checked and unchecked in TuneECU for a stock R3T?