Just as long as it's 4T .... anything with automobile type detergents will eventually cause the wet clutch to slip.
 
The dealer does the maintenance on my bikes. I've never asked what they put it them. I've never known anyone to put automotive oil in a motorcycle. I assume there has to be a difference or else they wouldn't make a specific blend for bikes. I have a friend that has strong convictions (aka opinions) about synthetic oil and he will not use it. I don't listen to his rants about it. I just nod my head a lot, lol. But, the jist is something to the effect that synthetic does more damage than good over the long haul. One of his bikes, a Harley custom chopper looking thing, has a LOT of miles on it with no issues so no one is going to convince him he's wrong.

Anyhow, to answer your questions. One, I have no idea what the dealer puts in my bikes. Two, my Rocket has never used any oil. I can tell you that your oil useage *could* be the result of your *spirited* riding style. I hang out on the Tiger forum too and the oil useage subject comes up periodically. It's rather interesting to note that the guys that experience oil useage are mostly the Europeans that ride like a bat out of hell everytime they ride. Most of the US owners do not experience oil useage. My Tiger has never used a drop of oil. But again, mine isn't ridden at high speeds for long periods of time; just the occasional "See you later Mr. ******* Cage Driver".
 
Daryl, Dink (or one of his mechanics) puts the full synthetic (4T) in your bike(s) when he changes the oil. As someone has already mentioned the difference in the auto and m/c oil is that on "most" bikes (HD being the one notable exception) the oil is the lubricant for both the engine and the transmission. Oil not specifically made for m/c's will eventually cause that wet clutch to slip as it does not contain the necessary additives to ensure that it doesn't happen.

Since you have owned HD's at various times in your experience I believe (could be slightly wrong) that the typical HD has three different types of oil that is used in them to keep them running.

Hope this helps.

Dennis

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I have a friend that has strong convictions (aka opinions) about synthetic oil and he will not use it. I don't listen to his rants about it. I just nod my head a lot, lol. But, the jist is something to the effect that synthetic does more damage than good over the long haul.
Thats too bad the guy won't give in to progress ... :p I had my doubts about the stuff when Mobil 1 1st came out, and I wouldn't use it either. Later down the road I learned more about it and saw that it was being used exclusively by manufacturers like Ferrari, Porsche and in Corvettes. The more I learned about the stuff the more I wanted to try it out. I started using it in everything but was still changing the oil in them every 3500 miles .... started getting expensive. :eek: So I started letting it go longer since the Corvette service intervals were getting further apart (I worked at a GM dealer back then). Then I bought the wife her Benz and it had a 10,000 mile service interval, since it checked its own oil level regularly (and held a ****-load of it), I started to let them go and left it in 10k. I now have that Cooper S and was shocked to see it had a 15,000 mile interval ! Since I drive the piss out it, I have to add some oil to it now and then but still let it go the full 15K. The synthetic Mobil 1 DOES work! It actually saves me alot of money in the long run. If I had more faith in the filters, I'd definately trust the oil to last better than 25,000 miles. I check the condition of the oil when I change it and it holds up fantastic. You can dip a tool into the used oil and it coats like fresh out of the bottle. If it weren't for the color, you couldn't tell the difference between new oil and 15,000 mile oil. With todays technology we have lifetime engine coolant, lifetime automatic transmission fluid and spark plugs that last over 100,000 miles ... how about lifetime engine oil? I have a self propelled sears lawn mower with a Kohler engine that I put Mobil 1 in after the break-in oil in 1997, I've NEVER changed it! She still starts 1st pull with no engine noise. :)
Since the hardly is going to explode one day anyway, if you got him to convert he would just blame you and the oil when it does, so I wouldn't bark up that tree. LOL :p
 
Trust me, I don't say a word to him about it. It ain't my bike (problem). :)

Dennis,

You're partially right about Harleys. If you choose to use Syn3 (their synthetic), it goes in all 3 (engine, tranny and primary). If you choose to run non syn, then you have to use engine oil, tranny fluid and primary oil (each are different). I figured Dink used synthetic, but I wasn't going to say as, again, I wasn't for sure because I've never asked him.
 
Ive used Amsoil from mile 500. I change at 10k and clean my Scotts filter at 3k, which takes less than a quart. The beast runs very strong I I have no qualms about the extra wear on the Amsoil. In fact, I use the disgarded Amsoil for a season in my yard implements, and get great results thus far.
 
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