That's one strategy, but when you reach market saturation and sales taper, changes are required. I would bet a hefty chunk not more than 1000 R3s are sold worldwide yearly these days. Those numbers are pretty hard to swallow. Hell, Rocket Xs are still for sale in various places (a few of them), only 500 were made over a year ago!
YOU are not going to sell 2300CC muscle bikes in the same numbers as smaller cruisers with half the power that cost $5000 less the ROCKET is a big intimidating monster and scares the crap out of a lot of riders that couldnt handle the 800lb beast so who cares its a special bike for riders that can appreciate the big beast and it will never sell like a 350 Honda .
 
The first Rocket I saw was at a dealership in Oklahoma city. The plan was to buy a Bonneville which we did. This was back in 05 and the salesman was really pushing the new Rockets. I sat on one at that time and thought to myself "way to big" . Ten years later I am in Dallas buying a Rocket X. The size of the bike was still very intimating. Rode around for almost a hour on side streets getting use to the bike prior to getting on the highway. When we bought the Harley in 2010 we just jumped on it and hit the highway. No big deal. Yes just the presents of the Rocket is enough to scare people so the thought of it ever becoming a big seller is not going to happen. Which is a good thing for some of us. Maybe not for Truimph. Looking at what Truimph has to offer this year especially the new Bonneville's it is rather obvious which direction the company is going in. o_Oo_Oo_O
 
The first Rocket I saw was at a dealership in Oklahoma city. The plan was to buy a Bonneville which we did. This was back in 05 and the salesman was really pushing the new Rockets. I sat on one at that time and thought to myself "way to big" . Ten years later I am in Dallas buying a Rocket X. The size of the bike was still very intimating. Rode around for almost a hour on side streets getting use to the bike prior to getting on the highway. When we bought the Harley in 2010 we just jumped on it and hit the highway. No big deal. Yes just the presents of the Rocket is enough to scare people so the thought of it ever becoming a big seller is not going to happen. Which is a good thing for some of us. Maybe not for Truimph. Looking at what Truimph has to offer this year especially the new Bonneville's it is rather obvious which direction the company is going in. o_Oo_Oo_O
WELL I had some interesting conversation with some of the big wigs from TRIUMPH and they said they never expected everyone to buy Rockets because they new they did intimidate a lot of the riders with their size and power
 
I doubt I'd buy any 4 cyl bike after realising the comparative benefits of similar sized triples. Twins with 270 cranks are OK too. ;) Only configuration that's better is 6 and given the current choices there, NO THANKS.
Unlikely and unnecessary as it is, if Triumph ever decides to go bigger I reckon a 2.8 V6, a narrow one like VW use, would be the way to go. Call it the V-2.

I'm thinking if they called it the "V-2" they probably wouldn't sell many in England :eek:
 
As for this whole gearing conversation, I think what most people are talking about (including me) is that the engine starts to get a little buzzy above 3000 rpm's. I had read an article about the early design of the R3. It was said that they could have made the engine completely smooth, but that focus groups wanted "to feel the engine". My suggestion to Triumph would be to remove the buzz. I'd be fine running the engine at 5000 rpm's if I could see out of the mirrors.
 
For what it's worth, I was at the Chicago Motorcycle show yesterday and was walking around looking for the Triumph booth. I saw some triumph banners in the distance, but when I got there, it was just a table with two nice guys who I talked to for a bit about the Rocket. They pointed me in the direction of where they are hiding all the new models and when I got there I was actually really shocked at how small it was. In fact, I walked past it two times and didn't even notice that I had missed them!

Anyways....I sat on the new speed triple + thruxton r, both of which look incredible. They did a really fantastic job, especially on the Thruxton R. The instrument cluster is incredible, the tank looks great and I honestly hope this sells a lot of units for them. I got to talking to the guy on the floor, he asked what I am riding and I mentioned the R3R. He was saying how (like many have mentioned on here already) that they are redoing their entire lineup within the next 4 years. I asked him did he think a CC bump would be coming, he responded with a quick, probably not. He was saying the R3 is just getting harder and harder to meet regulations in the EU and (this was his input not an official statement) believes it will become a NA only bike. No clue how how accurate that is but he mentioned more than likely, throttle by wire, traction control etc, but he thinks it wouldn't get much of an aesthetic change, which is fine with me and probably most people anyway.

None of this is gospel, but I figured I'd share what I heard.

Also, there were virtually no bikes at the booth. No R3, No cruiser of any kind, No tigers, nothing. It was 1 thruxton r, 1 speed triple, 1 street twin, 1 classic bonnie. Thought that was very interesting, especially no tigers, considering they had a rather large display for the Africa Twin. You think Triumph would want some eyes on their ADV bike.
 
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WELL I had some interesting conversation with some of the big wigs from TRIUMPH and they said they never expected everyone to buy Rockets because they new they did intimidate a lot of the riders with their size and power

It's funny, when I was at the show yesterday I was talking to one of the Triumph guys and he said the problem with the R3 is how they marketed it when it came out. It was all big brute, incredible power insanity. But when you actually ride it, yes the power is all there, but it is not as daunting as you think it would be. The bike handles incredibly well, is extremely smooth, and is fantastically priced. Maybe spooked a lotta people out of even thinking they could get on one.
 
As for this whole gearing conversation, I think what most people are talking about (including me) is that the engine starts to get a little buzzy above 3000 rpm's. I had read an article about the early design of the R3. It was said that they could have made the engine completely smooth, but that focus groups wanted "to feel the engine". My suggestion to Triumph would be to remove the buzz. I'd be fine running the engine at 5000 rpm's if I could see out of the mirrors.
YOU will notice that BUZZ can be stopped by pulling in the clutch lever to take away the freeplay so I think the clutch lifter piece is flopping around off center and creating the vibration or Buzz we feel
 
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I ace wondered just how well balanced the clutch backer is. I have noticed s little less vibration with my hydraulic clutch.
 
I have wondered just how well balanced the clutch basket is. I have noticed a little less vibration with my hydraulic clutch.
 
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