My Carpenter 240 build

1olbull said:

So Rob,
You gained about 12 RWHP with the Oz header over the CES?
Would be interesting to get Jeff's motor onto Nels' dyno.

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Claviger said:

To be honest, the R3 is most fun on the street in the 200ish whp range. Having seen 120, 140, 155, 183, 197, 211, 232, 251, and wherever it's at now, above 230 it's much harder to use all the power.

We're I building another rocket, oh wait I am... 210 at the wheel with the broadest possible torque curve would be my target. 211 was enough to contend with liter bikes and be fun.

At 200ish, I was comfortable opening it up very frequently with confidence I wouldn't be bitten unexpectedly.

At 230 you really need to pay attention to throttle control when over the 4k mark cornering.

At 250, going full power leant over is like seeing god. You cannot process all the sensory data coming at you so you learn to quickly parse and dismiss extraneous details.

While exciting, I think I and maybe many riders, would be faster through Twisties at 200ish than 250ish.

Mufasa has gone too far, I'm undoing a couple of small things to tame it, as I cannot relax on the bike anymore.

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Jvheli said:

Not this year, as I’m headed to Maggie Valley this Saturday. But maybe one day!

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Dr.D said:

See you over there soon. Take it easy over here on these tight roads.

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Claviger said:

I did a little overlay as people asked for.

This is rather interesting, the blue and yellow are literally exactly the same exhaust, as it came off my bike and shipped to Jvheli. So it's a near apples to apples between CES on a 240 and a 265 in the real world, not using the marketing plots.

Looking for a 240 +brute Dyno from a 3rd party to add which I can't seem to find. I NO way am I trying to "1 up" Jvehlis phenomenal achievement, just providing info. With the same pipe your 240 setup looks like a much nicer ride, broader torque curve and flatter curve, meaning more tractable and usable.

The Brute pipe will take torque away below 4k and add some after 6500, more like the blue plot. Different builds intended for different uses!

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Claviger said:

I did a little overlay as people asked for.

This is rather interesting, the blue and yellow are literally exactly the same exhaust, as it came off my bike and shipped to Jvheli. So it's a near apples to apples between CES on a 240 and a 265 in the real world, not using the marketing plots.

Looking for a 240 +brute Dyno from a 3rd party to add which I can't seem to find. I NO way am I trying to "1 up" Jvehlis phenomenal achievement, just providing info. With the same pipe your 240 setup looks like a much nicer ride, broader torque curve and flatter curve, meaning more tractable and usable.

The Brute pipe will take torque away below 4k and add some after 6500, more like the blue plot. Different builds intended for different uses!

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1olbull said:

"We're I building another rocket, oh wait I am... 210 at the wheel with the broadest possible torque curve would be my target."
This sounds V-e-r-y exciting!
Can I cum?

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