Is it me or what- lack of confidence in Metzlers

[HansO]

If you are "locking up and sliding" your rear tire on an 800 lb motorcycle, maybe you should try the front brake. Also some riding or stopping drills/lessons would be a good idea. Less panic braking....

sliding under power I think you will find he is referring to

 

[tdragger]

I rarely ever use the rear brakes as I learned in the old MSF days when I was an instructor to use the fronts. Only had a few instances where the additional stopping force of the rear was needed and it wasn't there. Press on the pedal and instant lock up. Fortunately I was able to recover both times before the high side was initiated. I don't need a lecture about braking.

In the 40+ thousand miles since going darkside, I've never had a rear lock up and have had many instances where the additional braking provided by the rear was needed. The bike just stops now, no slide, no drama.

Yes, I consider the Metz a safety hazard and no amount of preaching is going to change that opinion. That's all it is, just my opinion.

 

[peter k]

If you are "locking up and sliding" your rear tire on an 800 lb motorcycle, maybe you should try the front brake. Also some riding or stopping drills/lessons would be a good idea. Less panic braking....

I actually parted company with my bike going through twisties when the road was wet but the Metz was nearly down to the wear mark .i just figured that I should have been able to ride to the wear mark ,that's one of the reasons I steer clear of the Metz on the rear

 

[Dawg68]

After two lockups and slides I will stick with my opinion.

I have to agree with Tomcat.....the ME880 may not be the best tire in the world.....or the worst.....I have no complaints in the wet or dry. We have to be honest though, if you say the tires are dangerous you have to qualify that with how you ride. This is just my opinion but if you are sliding and locking up on more than one occasion maybe....just maybe it's how you ride or expect too much out of this wonderful machine in the corners. Please don't read any tone into this post all I'm saying is you can't blame the rubber 100% when there are many other factors involved.
Cheers

 

[Wannbe]

It was more of the rear locking up and sliding out resulting in a high side off. G-man (RIP) and TFraiser are two that come to mind.

I dont think "locking up and sliding" means under power....lol
Your experience doesnt equal skill. As you stick by your comment about the tire, I will stick by mine. Rear tire shouldn't slide on 800 lb motorcycle. Maybe you need a sportbike to ride this aggressively.

 

[Wannbe]

Dangerous tires. I will assume this is the same metz. lol

 

[Evil Mitch]

Statistics show that 99.9 % of people running metzlers are homosexuals lol

just kidding think it depends on a lot of things including riding style . I know people who are far better riders than me that only run metzlers and don't have a problem. They also ride harder than me. But I don't like them myself because they suck arse and that's as much logic as u will get out of me

 

[TOMCAT]

Statistics show that 99.9 % of people running metzlers are homosexuals lol

just kidding think it depends on a lot of things including riding style . I know people who are far better riders than me that only run metzlers and don't have a problem. They also ride harder than me. But I don't like them myself because they suck arse and that's as much logic as u will get out of me

See when you bring the laws of gravitational pull , physics and forward inertia into it as Mitchy has so eloquently done ... it all makes perfect sense

 

[TOMCAT]

I rarely ever use the rear brakes as I learned in the old MSF days when I was an instructor to use the fronts. Only had a few instances where the additional stopping force of the rear was needed and it wasn't there. Press on the pedal and instant lock up. Fortunately I was able to recover both times before the high side was initiated. I don't need a lecture about braking.

In the 40+ thousand miles since going darkside, I've never had a rear lock up and have had many instances where the additional braking provided by the rear was needed. The bike just stops now, no slide, no drama.

Yes, I consider the Metz a safety hazard and no amount of preaching is going to change that opinion. That's all it is, just my opinion.

Definitely not trying to " preach " at you Dragger , or trying to change your opinion , just stating my own experience mate.

 

[CanberraR3]

Me thinks he's just having a dig at all the misguided souls (me included) who for some unknown reason have stated that a car tyre isn't safe on a motorbike. It's his way of getting back at us. Safety hazard is a big call though. Mitch absolutely summed it up - as have others but Mitch nailed it. I also gotta agree with Wannbe; rear wheel lock ups should be blamed pretty much entirely on rider skill (or rather, lack of) or rider error. The Metz has issues and some of us have found alternatives that suit us on these bikes much better. I know plenty of people that swear by the brand on other bikes, but on Rockets, they suck arse.