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- 2472cc Supercharged Carpenter Rocket III Stroker
Following a few requests from fellow captains recently – not so much of an unofficial “how to”, as it is just a documentation of “how I did it” (took me a solid week the first time)
This is in NO WAY a substitute for the expert guidance of Bob Carpenter & his boys.
You need to be at least very mechanically inclined to do this yourself, and that’s WITH guidance, as far as I know, most captains with the mail order kit got their mechanics to fit it, the only ‘regular’ guys I know of that did it themselves are @warp9.9 and myself. We’ve had our engines apart many times too so have refitted the bits a few times also
Carpenter Racing
0. Prerequisites
Stuff you will need before all this;
Mail order kit means sending your cylinder head, cams, cam chain tensioning guide blade to Bob to get molested (ported, shim-over-bucket to shim-under-bucket conversion, valve spring and retainer changeout, cams reprofiled, shoe fitted to tensioning guide).
(n) Remove camshafts as per manual section 3.14 - mind your cam shaft ladder
N.B. the camshafts can be shipped in the head for convenience, but you will still need to remove them now in order to get to the head bolts
(o) Remove cylinder head as per manual section 3.20. The manual says to remove oil tank in order to remove cylinder head – you don’t need to remove the oil tank, although it is easier to remove head with the tank out of the way - your choice
(p) Remove spark plugs, thermostat and coolant temperature sensor from the head before shipping
(q) Fit cam ladder and cam cover to head before shipping – optional to put cams in head too or wrap separately – leave the valve disassembly to the Carpenter boys - if shipping cams beside the head, not in it, best use something to help hold tappet buckets from falling out during shipping e.g.;
2. Shipping Parts to Carpenter Racing
This is in NO WAY a substitute for the expert guidance of Bob Carpenter & his boys.
You need to be at least very mechanically inclined to do this yourself, and that’s WITH guidance, as far as I know, most captains with the mail order kit got their mechanics to fit it, the only ‘regular’ guys I know of that did it themselves are @warp9.9 and myself. We’ve had our engines apart many times too so have refitted the bits a few times also
Carpenter Racing
0. Prerequisites
Stuff you will need before all this;
1no. Rocket III motorcycle
Carpenter Racing 210/240/265 kit payment made
Dynojet Power Commander 5 installed (recommended to have Autotune & POD 300 or Wideband O2 & POD 300 or an AFR gauge too – but not essential)
TuneBoy cable, enabled laptop, “key” from TuneBoy for your ECU
UPDATE: I've created TuneECU versions of the 240hp Tuneboy maps - hopefully this will set us free from Tuneboy - see section 9 below for links
Other parts required (e.g. Triumph head gasket, engine oil etc) – see section 3 below
An experienced & very mechanically inclined enthusiast, or better still a good mechanic
A garage space equipped for servicing motorcycles etc
A free-flowing “performance” exhaust - or your gains will be hampered (e.g. stock exhaust yielded 175whp with 240 kit for me)
Least restricted intake that you’re willing to accommodate e.g. triple K&Ns
N.B. Without the minimal-restriction intake and performance exhaust, your BHP gains will be significantly less than advertised and the supplied map will be way off
Special tools needed;
1. Removing cams, cylinder head and cam chain tensioning guide bladeCarpenter Racing 210/240/265 kit payment made
Dynojet Power Commander 5 installed (recommended to have Autotune & POD 300 or Wideband O2 & POD 300 or an AFR gauge too – but not essential)
TuneBoy cable, enabled laptop, “key” from TuneBoy for your ECU
UPDATE: I've created TuneECU versions of the 240hp Tuneboy maps - hopefully this will set us free from Tuneboy - see section 9 below for links
Other parts required (e.g. Triumph head gasket, engine oil etc) – see section 3 below
An experienced & very mechanically inclined enthusiast, or better still a good mechanic
A garage space equipped for servicing motorcycles etc
A free-flowing “performance” exhaust - or your gains will be hampered (e.g. stock exhaust yielded 175whp with 240 kit for me)
Least restricted intake that you’re willing to accommodate e.g. triple K&Ns
N.B. Without the minimal-restriction intake and performance exhaust, your BHP gains will be significantly less than advertised and the supplied map will be way off
Special tools needed;
- Triumph cylinder liner puller tool T3880061*
- 20mm open spanners
- magnetic base dial indicator with long thin needle**
- U-clamps or similar (used in machining e.g. mill) and a handful of nuts just big enough for old head bolt to pass through
- imperial and metric spanner sets (you’ve a UK bike with USA parts going on – e.g. APE manual tensioner)
*There are other methods of removing pistons, i.e. going in from underneath where you don’t need the Triumph tool, but I chose on top as you have to take that part of engine apart anyway – unlike the bottom of the engine
**If you can only get a “normal” needle, you can use something as an extension – see section 7 photos, I used a needle for pumping up footballs
**If you can only get a “normal” needle, you can use something as an extension – see section 7 photos, I used a needle for pumping up footballs
Mail order kit means sending your cylinder head, cams, cam chain tensioning guide blade to Bob to get molested (ported, shim-over-bucket to shim-under-bucket conversion, valve spring and retainer changeout, cams reprofiled, shoe fitted to tensioning guide).
(a) Remove the seat, disconnect and remove battery
(b) Drop oil and remove oil filter as per manual section 9.8, fitting new crush washers and oil filter, but don’t put in new oil yet
(c) Drain coolant, remove coolant expansion bottle, radiator including both hoses to cylinder head and water pump as per manual section 12.11
(d) Remove clutch cover as per manual section 4.7
(e) Remove fuel tank as per manual section 11.149 (11.153 Touring)
(f) Remove exhaust system as per manual section 11.201 (11.204 Touring)
(g) Remove air filter, intake ducting (filter box can stay) including air temp sensor, and throttle bodies including fuel rail and MAP sensor & tubes, as per manual section 11.188
(h) Remove all 3 coils and HT leads including coil support bracket, compressed air blast of spark plug towers and then remove spark plugs
(i) Optional to either disconnect and peel back main harness completely out of the way, or partially disconnect and wrap it up well to the right side chassis spine – tag any disconnected plugs with tape and what it’s for/where it connects back later
(b) Drop oil and remove oil filter as per manual section 9.8, fitting new crush washers and oil filter, but don’t put in new oil yet
(c) Drain coolant, remove coolant expansion bottle, radiator including both hoses to cylinder head and water pump as per manual section 12.11
(d) Remove clutch cover as per manual section 4.7
(e) Remove fuel tank as per manual section 11.149 (11.153 Touring)
(f) Remove exhaust system as per manual section 11.201 (11.204 Touring)
(g) Remove air filter, intake ducting (filter box can stay) including air temp sensor, and throttle bodies including fuel rail and MAP sensor & tubes, as per manual section 11.188
(h) Remove all 3 coils and HT leads including coil support bracket, compressed air blast of spark plug towers and then remove spark plugs
(i) Optional to either disconnect and peel back main harness completely out of the way, or partially disconnect and wrap it up well to the right side chassis spine – tag any disconnected plugs with tape and what it’s for/where it connects back later
(j) Remove cam cover as per manual section 3.5
(k) Remove cam chain tensioner as per manual section 3.6
N.B. No need to use the Triumph cam jig tool to hold cams in timed place when doing this, as the cams are coming out too, just turn the crank over clockwise from front using 24mm socket on the big nut on end of crankshaft, until the cams are in a position where no cam lobe is pushing a valve bucket down, i.e. their most “relaxed” position (i.e. any position where a pair of cam lobes, no matter the cylinder are facing directly away from tappet faces), e.g.;
(k) Remove cam chain tensioner as per manual section 3.6
N.B. No need to use the Triumph cam jig tool to hold cams in timed place when doing this, as the cams are coming out too, just turn the crank over clockwise from front using 24mm socket on the big nut on end of crankshaft, until the cams are in a position where no cam lobe is pushing a valve bucket down, i.e. their most “relaxed” position (i.e. any position where a pair of cam lobes, no matter the cylinder are facing directly away from tappet faces), e.g.;
(l) Remove & inspect cam chain as per manual section 3.10 – if your chain is anywhere near the 149.48mm limit over 23 links then it might be a good idea to order a replacement now while head is going to Carpenter, especially as it will probably stretch a bit with the new engine
(m) Remove cam chain guide blades as per manual section 3.13
N.B. If your engine is pre-2010 you probably have the old design cam chain tensioning guide – the one that’s been superseded as the old one breaks. It would be a good idea to buy the newer model T1142048 from Triumph and send that one to Carpenter Racing, and shelve your engine’s original one.
N.B. Some other parts can be also upgraded while doing this work, depending on your engine – see list in section 3 below
(m) Remove cam chain guide blades as per manual section 3.13
N.B. If your engine is pre-2010 you probably have the old design cam chain tensioning guide – the one that’s been superseded as the old one breaks. It would be a good idea to buy the newer model T1142048 from Triumph and send that one to Carpenter Racing, and shelve your engine’s original one.
N.B. Some other parts can be also upgraded while doing this work, depending on your engine – see list in section 3 below
(n) Remove camshafts as per manual section 3.14 - mind your cam shaft ladder
N.B. the camshafts can be shipped in the head for convenience, but you will still need to remove them now in order to get to the head bolts
(o) Remove cylinder head as per manual section 3.20. The manual says to remove oil tank in order to remove cylinder head – you don’t need to remove the oil tank, although it is easier to remove head with the tank out of the way - your choice
(p) Remove spark plugs, thermostat and coolant temperature sensor from the head before shipping
(q) Fit cam ladder and cam cover to head before shipping – optional to put cams in head too or wrap separately – leave the valve disassembly to the Carpenter boys - if shipping cams beside the head, not in it, best use something to help hold tappet buckets from falling out during shipping e.g.;
2. Shipping Parts to Carpenter Racing
(a) Crate up your cylinder head (leave the valve assemblies in), cams and cam chain tensioning guide blade (N.B. web site doesn't mention the guide but they need it)
(b) Include copy of receipt of payment to Carpenter for the kit, specify which kit it is you want, list of parts in the crate, what year & model Rocket you have, return address, and email address to send the map file to
(c) If you are unfortunate enough to live in a country that charges import duties & taxes, be sure to file the temporary export paperwork and document the whole thing to within an inch of its life, this should save you having to pay duty & tax when it all comes back
(b) Include copy of receipt of payment to Carpenter for the kit, specify which kit it is you want, list of parts in the crate, what year & model Rocket you have, return address, and email address to send the map file to
(c) If you are unfortunate enough to live in a country that charges import duties & taxes, be sure to file the temporary export paperwork and document the whole thing to within an inch of its life, this should save you having to pay duty & tax when it all comes back
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