Help, please! Engine overheating 🥵

Nashvegas

That’s a Rocket, son.
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‘22 Triumph Rocket 3 GT
I have an ongoing problem with my 22GT. I have taken it to two different dealerships and they have not been able to diagnose the issue. Relays are good, continuity is good and the fan motors are good. When I get into traffic I know to switch over to the temp reading because if it goes a half bar above about 50% it will throw a check engine code. If I look at the fans they are usually stopped. They will sometimes kick on for a few weak revolutions and then stop again. I shut the bike down, wait a minute or so and restart. Sometimes the fans kick on, sometimes they don’t. Rinse & repeat. They never seem to kick into high mode. When the traffic clears, the temp goes back to normal, so I think the thermostat is fine. After a few cycles of no traffic the check engine fault goes off. Until next time…. Grrr…

So, after looking at the downloadable repair manual/coolant system I found that it has a PWM Controller. This regulates fan speed. Hmm… Computers use them and you may have heard your fan when it kicks into high mode. So, I ordered one this afternoon. Maybe that’s the issue or maybe not but I think I am on the right track. Thoughts? My issue now, don’t even go there is that I can’t find how the replace the PWM Controller in the searchable database. Remove the cowling? Remove the radiator? Help! Please.
 

going to guess
PWN (pulse width modulated controller) would be the voltage or ground needed to come to the fan motor to make it run as fast as the ecu wants it to run
again guessing
if you put 12 volts on the fan motor it would be at max siting if running about 13.7 volts.
what is the code number it is giving?
i have not been dealing with the new r3 and this seems like a problem not many are going to know about.
good luck
check water level
 
Error code 1555. Over heating, short circuit. Coolent level perfect in the auxiliary tank. Fan runs great when they put it through the dealer/diagnostic paces. If it is the ECU I am in some deep poop.
 
I'm very interested to find out more about this subject.

Last year when I concluded that my intermittent LCD display fault only occurred when the engine got really hot, I did wonder if the cooling fans were working as they should.
The problem for me, is that when the LCD display dies on me, I can't see the temperature gauge, but I know that before the display dies, the temp reading is high.
I'm not getting any error codes and my dealer has scanned for any data logged on the bike, but found nothing, so at the moment i'm in limbo about getting a fix for my problem.

It only becomes a problem when i'm stationary in traffic and the ambient temp is over, say, 71F. I can then really feel the heat from the engine. As soon as i'm feeling that level of heat, the display begins to die, and once it's completely blacked out, it doesn't come on again until the bike has cooled down and been switched off and restarted.

Could it be that I have the same kind of fault on the fans??
 
The ECU processes the temperature data from temperature sensor and determines whether the cooling fan needs to be activated. When the coolant temperature exceeds a certain threshold, the ECU sends a signal to the PWM fan controller. The PWM fan controller receives the signal from the ECU. The cooling fan, controlled by the PWM signal,





Stock tune or custom?


Use this circuit diagram from Triumph for our bikes to diagnose the cooling system


 
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Penner/Custom tune. It ran fine 6-8 months after the tune. I think the ECU is telling it to go because sometimes it will do a couple of very weak revolutions and then stop. If I turn the bike off and then back on it will usually start spinning but not always on the first try and then they never seem to kick into high-speed.
 
71F only happens around 5am during this time of the year! My display never went dark but began to get really cloudy/fogged out and it wasn’t moisture under the lens. My dealership sent a report to Triumph and it was covered and replaced even though the bike is out of warranty. Those displays had a bad run, cracking, etc. and Triumph is well aware of multiple issues. Have your dealership address the issue directly to Triumph and I bet you get a new one. Good luck!
 
1st thing just because it has fluid in the resivore does not mean the radiator is full.
Until someone says other wise i think that the fan controller is regulating the positive voltage for the fan and to check it you would have to monitor voltage downstream of the controller.
Have you tried to spin the fans to see if there is any drag on them when it gets hot?
Hth
Keep us posted and good luck .
 
I would put stock tune back then reset the ECU - leave battery disconnected for 24hours from motorcycle
if that doesnt help then follow the electric diagrams and start with new PWM and its connectors going to ECU.
After reading your post, I noticed my temperature and it was one bar above half at 32C 89F.

 
I guess if i were trying to fix this problem i would first ground the fan ground wire and that may set a code may be the same code that you have?
now jumping the positive may be a different thing
I am thinking the voltages comming from the fan controller/module is different more like an ac/heater fan with multiple speeds for the fan jumping 12 volts should set a code/codes.
Just laying out a few ideas
Hth