Help me with an exhaust question?

WisconsinRocket

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Hi guys. So i have found a set of tors for my 2009 R3T. I also just received my Paul Bryant crossover and a ramair setup. I decided to try and reuse the muffler gaskets (stainless mesh and lead I think?). Well, that didn't work. They are destroyed enough that I dont think they will work. My question is can I run the viking crossover (which Paul says doesnt need gaskets only sealant) with the tors and the powertripp derestricting tune? I already have that tune in and am running short on time before a big ride. I don't think I have time to put the ramair in. So stock air box+ PB crossover+tors on a tripp tune. What do you guys think?
 
Hi guys. So i have found a set of tors for my 2009 R3T. I also just received my Paul Bryant crossover and a ramair setup. I decided to try and reuse the muffler gaskets (stainless mesh and lead I think?). Well, that didn't work. They are destroyed enough that I dont think they will work. My question is can I run the viking crossover (which Paul says doesnt need gaskets only sealant) with the tors and the powertripp derestricting tune? I already have that tune in and am running short on time before a big ride. I don't think I have time to put the ramair in. So stock air box+ PB crossover+tors on a tripp tune. What do you guys think?
Do you have a UNI filter in it? I'd think it will work anyway.
 
Putting the RamAir filter on takes about an hour, maybe 2 if you are meticulous. The components you have put together will work well.
 
Putting the RamAir filter on takes about an hour, maybe 2 if you are meticulous. The components you have put together will work well.
So, it will still work without the ramair, or not? I have heard the tunes with ramair are great, but i will also need to retune from the Tripp tune. I guessing I either need to put all my parts on and retune, or try to rush a shipment of muffler gaskets.
I guess I'm a bit hesitant to change a bunch of parts and a tune right before I leave for a 3,000+ mile bike trip.
 
What is the full name of the PowerTripp map and where did you get it?
I don't know much about R3T's but i don't see one from him in the TuneECU custom map area or our Resources section for a Touring model??
 
Ladies and gents,
I have had more than a few calls about Touring model performance. This should help out more than a few of you.

The Touring models are the same except for the exhaust and ECU calibration. BOTH are very restricted.The ECU controls the secondary throttles and actually closes them at higher rpm and higher gears. In the exhaust, the header is the same, but the box after the header is very restrictive. Slip-ons (TORS and D&D) really don't do much except for sound.

Neither do air filters under the seat. Triple K&N RU-2780 filters make a bit more from 4000-5500 rpm, but have the same peak power output as the stock air filter. The stock intake plenum and ducting actually makes more torque under 3000 rpm than triple RU-2780 filters under the bearclaw. It is not until you go to a full exhaust system that the RU-2780 filters make a difference.

A stock R3T or one with a slip-on exhaust tends to make ~86 hp on my dyno (~ 13% lower than a Dynojet), and 130-131 ft-lb of torque. Simply re-calibrating the ECU (mapping) tends to result in 115-117 hp, and 140-142 ft-lb of torque. A very nice improvement.

Attached is a "tune" for stock and slip-on exhaust R3T models, as well as a graph of output differences. Dashed lines are torque. Red is an R3T with TORS and stock air filter. Yellow is after tuning. This resulted in 43+ mpg cruising at 70 mph on 87 octane fuel. Speedo corrected for stock tire. Speed limiter raised. Ignition timing improved in lower gears. ENJOY!

You can also find this map on Tom Hamburg's TuneECU.com site under the custom Triumph tunes section. I have this tune downloaded but not on compatible format.

R3T TORS graph.jpg
 
You can find Power Tripp's tune here
TuneECU Custom tune list Triumph
It's named " R3T_stock_or_slip-on.hex "
Ah, I looked there but most of his other maps start with power-tripp so i didn't catch it.
Yes, you will be fine with that tune if you are just adding the crossover pipe. The ECU will handle it.

If you decide to put just the Ramair on by itself you are probably still OK but if you do the Ramair plus TORs
then a remap is wise.
I see two candidates to play with:
in the Resources folder:
Touring Tune by Nels at TwoWheelDynoWorks 2018-06-09
Full Remap of F/L/I tables done by Nels for a Touring With TORs and RAMIAR/K&Ns
and it may be the same map on TuneECU site;
Nels Tune TORS RamAir Final.hex
 
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