Darkside Review ???

[TriumPhil]

WTF? would you just shut up already?

Which reminds me; Here's a belated XMas gift for ya': Anger Management Programs

BTW, I'm virtually a teetotaler, so find another excuse, boys.

 

[warp9.9]

IMFATTOO MOD

look at it as the brightside be there or be square

 

[HansO]

IMFATTOO MOD

look at it as the brightside be there or be square

Gotta love it but you still havent told us where/who does them, do I have to beg................
picture this ....I'm now on my Knee's "Please Sir can I have some more" info
pretty please with ice cream on top

 

[tdragger]

looks like it would be great for your riding style but looks like it would be crap in the rain.

 

[albertaduke]

looks like it would be great for your riding style but looks like it would be crap in the rain.

I doubt he plan on riding hard in the rain .like most he will shy away from rain and if caught in the stuff he will tiptoe nice and easy with the throttle. but on the asphalt these babies look like they will burn!!!!!!!!!

 

[PeteOZ]

Soooooooo. The major reason for moving to the Darkside appears to be longevity. The better handling and braking in the wet is a positive, and the tracking on off cambers and at low speeds is a negative (and not a bad one, based on reports). They are however, simply byproducts of the move to a car tyre. What is obvious from a lack of reports to the contrary, is that car tyres do not break loose when cornering any more easily than bike tyres.

So what exactly is preventing the bike tyre manufacturers from producing some of their models with a longer lasting, more heavily treadded (is that a word?) compound, such as used on cars. Is it simply the greed of knowing that profits would decrease as tyres would be replaced at much larger intervals, or is it something more complex ?

Am I just stupid in thinking that the introduction of such a tyre model would eliminate the need to install "car tyres" altogether ?

Pete

 

[HansO]

Soooooooo. The major reason for moving to the Darkside appears to be longevity. The better handling and braking in the wet is a positive, and the tracking on off cambers and at low speeds is a negative (and not a bad one, based on reports). They are however, simply byproducts of the move to a car tyre. What is obvious from a lack of reports to the contrary, is that car tyres do not break loose when cornering any more easily than bike tyres.

So what exactly is preventing the bike tyre manufacturers from producing some of their models with a longer lasting, more heavily treadded (is that a word?) compound, such as used on cars. Is it simply the greed of knowing that profits would decrease as tyres would be replaced at much larger intervals, or is it something more complex ?

Am I just stupid in thinking that the introduction of such a tyre model would eliminate the need to install "car tyres" altogether ?

Pete

You pretty well hit the nail on the head there on all points and you actually have more rubber on the road andI think there is a lot of greed involved to or how can you justifie $450.00 Ausdollar for a Metzler when I can buy a sticky Toyo for $280.00 Ausdollar and get more mileage, go figure, captive market maybe? i think Greed has a lot to do with it there is still a lot of development in Car tyre so they can't tell me that the bike tyre costs more due to development costs

 

[CanberraR3]

If only this one came in our size:

Avon Roadrunner AM21 Rear Tire - 230/60-15 - Cheap Cycle Parts

I really like the look of this.

 

[JRock]

It seems like the best of a car tire and a bike tire combined.

 

[warp9.9]

With the price of the tires down under I am not sure if I would give up the safety of a MC tire verses the DS. Most likely not or at least not until the engineers get together and post dicisive information stating that running a square tire on a bike is safe. until then at least I have increased my availability of a variety of tires for the bike to include a Continental Tire, next if I am not worried about having a tire with the speed rating above 168 I will try a couple different Perilli's Diablo and night dragon and Shinko has a couple nice 240/40/Vr18 also. Then there is the Dunlop 240 and 250 /40/Vr18 and wouldn't you know it the Avon cobra also comes in the 18 rim with 240 and 250 widths. Then there is always the 240 and 260 metzler plus I bet a few other choices. with this rim I cam now run up to 260 width without rubbing. and who knows maybe a 280 if there is one out there.
I was lucky with this rim I got it to the guy two weeks before he retired. Thanks to IMFASTTOO. This is where yopu guys screw yourselves often. You get a guy with loads of experience in bikes all round experience not just engines not just racing but a guy who spent years as a dealer and working with some of the biggest names in biking. In fact before I met him I was lucky enough to here someone else talk about how back in his racing days he had 53 speed records in one year do to the many different classes he raced in. Anyway his internet edicate is not the best and he is different in person. But you guys go out of your way to kick him in the balls when ever you get the chance and what happens is two things one he is not aloud on the site anymore so you don't have to put up with his anticar tire campain. 2 All the extensive knowledge goes with him as he is not aloud to post. And the most important thing is his knowledge that is what everyone loses even if they are not a DS guy.
So some of us who do not kik him in the balls get help from him hell he is the one who new about getting my tire done not I. and you want him to give up the information to the ones who kick him in the nads. I got news for you and that is you can ask him but if yoyur one of the ones who kicked him in the balls I aint got him pissing on you if you were on fire.
Me I like geting information from him and will respect any wishes he has with respect to posting anything about his modifications and knowledge so I can continue to get valuable information from him.

Basically I think you guys got rid of volumes of free knowledge and for what a tire that all tire manufacturing engineers say is unsafe usage. And as it has been said here before. If you think you are smarter then the engineers Get real and share the dope your on.