Clutch Parts Update

Pretty soon riding weather be over and I will be grinding some. Depending on where you live i.e. cold area shipping on UPS is like riding in the Fridge. I will hook you up I ship to friends in about 6 different States. You must be careful this stuff is better then dope or as I say I will throw the bait out there and hook you. During the first gulf war my smoker ran around the clock I shipped to the persian gulf and even Bosnia (call it support for our troops) My wife was in Bosnia at the time so it was easy to hook fish Later dude I am off to work

now you're talkin', Warp......


Man, there's no better treat than a good quality sausage during Christmas season. Especially when a family & friends gathering is involved. it just doesn't get any better than that. I'll be hookin' up........


greg

The thing to keep in mind is production models versus one off. Any production motorcycle that is even remotely affordable is always made up of compromises, compromises due entirely to production and cost constraints. It's entirley up to the indiviodual, at his whim, to modify the production model to his own unique and sometimes obtuse liking.

By the way, you can normalize in a toaster oven. I do it all the time. That's what stainless foil wrap is for.

My ex was Polish. My present is German. My first was a hillbilly.

Hey flip My soon to be x is Polish and I have know ambitions of finding another x but then I have been off the market for 27+ years so who knows. as for normalizing in the toaster oven if I can cook ribs in my Lucifer Furnace its only fair to do things in a toaster oven. You are right about compromises in production models. Its just to bad they did it on a few things on our Rockets. Pound for pound I still love this beast and if I waste her and live I will just go buy another of course I would like not to waste her. Must be one hell of a toaste roven usually normalizing is done after some type of hot working operation like forging where temperature were so high the grain grouth is Eminent. It is usualy used as a conditioning treatment to refine the grain structure (smaller finer grains in steel interlock better which increases strength think of it as if we made concrete with aggregate larger the 3/4- and fines used in all concrete if we made concrete out of 3" rocks it would not bond as well as finer agregates do)
It is usaully followed by a second heat treatment operation say like austenitizing, annealing or tempering. some times forgings and other metals are subjected to so much stress in the plastic deformation work that they have to do a inprocess annealing to reduce and homogenically relax the steel before further plastic deformation can happen. A ring gear in the rear end of a vehicle starts out like a block of steel the size of a soft ball and goes thru several proccesses to finally be shaped into the ring gear this alows for grain flow thru out the part increasing its strength. on the otherhand stress relieving decreases strains placed on the structure of steels after plastic deformation. Of couse in these type of proccesses it depend on whether the steel was work above or below recrystalization range of the metal i.e hot worked or cold rolled
it is very important to reduce residual stresses in the steels. There are so many steel treatments some tend to cross or merge with the definitions of others. Stress relieving usually stays below the austenite equillibrium temperatures so as not to allow the carbon to move out of the austenite molecules or we would be back to the begining a mixture of peralitc microstructures with cementite randomly mixed around and not consistant or non homogenic like milk that was never homoginized floaties everywhere. Your good flip you don't just cut **** a ship it you work the quality in your parts and you will be selling stuff for a while. I can definetly say I will be sending you money for your products. We need to keep guys like you in buisness I know you could pretty up pot metal and sell it but you don't I have never heard any other than quality compliments on your stuff.

ok,
so if you reheat it in the oven,does that make it a leftover?


greg

2 points goodfellow
I gess thadepends on whether the ole lady cooked it enough in the first place

Normalizing...

I do normalize in a toaster oven.....

I make and sell through a distributor, AGD indicator rod extensions for deep hole indicating from hi-carb drill rod. The ends are spherically machined and through hardened and then normalized at 350 Dg/Fh for 30 minutes along with my lunch.

Flip can I have the numbers of the hiagh carbon drill rod and it does not have to be a sae equivalent number I have a metallurgical cook book that can convert the numbers if not sae. I do believe you are doing some type of thermal treatment your just using the wrong terms maybe that is just a slang term you were taught.
this was taken from a internet site it is a pdf that does not allow you to copy and paste so I will type it you can click on the link and it is alphabetical Normalizing: The process of heating a metal above a critical temperature and allowing it to cool slowly under room temperature conditions to obtain a softer and less distorted material.
Tempering: A heat treating process to reduce the stresses produced when hardening and to impart certain qualities, such as toughness; sometimes called "drawing"
http://www.metalartspress.com/PDFs/Glossary.pdf
So good fellow was partially right in his statement drawing I take as slang but instead of relying on my memory I should have googled it and found drawing is like a slang word . My metallurgical books do not use the term drawing as slang it refers to drawing as a operation performed on a variety of forming operations. This is due to the strians produced in steels in forming operations where a lot of strians build up in the metal as in when you keep bending a coat hanger eventual so much stress is produced in the grains that the hanger brakes. Probably the atomic slide creating heat in areas like the grian boundries wer the brittle cementite (a brittle orthorombic crystal structure Fe3C iron carbide. when it occurs as a phase in steel, the chemical compositionwill be alter by the presence of manganese and other carbide-forming agents.)
Disclammer on spelling and gramatical errors as I am a high school drop out

I, too have the metallurgical cookbook. However, it's in the shop and not at hand. If I remember to bring it in, I'll paraphrase the text. I believe you'll also find the text in 'Machinery's Handbook' under treatment of steels, post hardening but again, it's not at hand.

I too am an atrocious speller. However, I make judicious use of the icon in the upper right corner of the post window......

thanks flip

Well flip thanks I always wondered what that was and here I was cutting and pasting and correcting on msword you just saved me a whole lot of time
Good thing we have a wealth of knowledge on this site or drop outs like me might not figure the simple **** out Thanks bud!!!