BREAKING NEWS:Harley Davidson closing a plant due to declining sales.

The reason Indian is selling so well was their appeal to the regular working man and woman

Appeal to regular working men and women? Is that a joke? Maybe you haven't checked the Indian prices lately. They are higher than Harley. Selling well? I bet they sell 1/10 of what Harley sells, so how is that 'selling well'? If things hold Indian will go the way of Victory in a few years. Bet on it. After getting a few disgruntled Harley riders, Indian will then have to build their own clientele. Good luck with that. The corporate reports were that Victory sold well right up to the day they closed shop. Polaris didn't make a dime on Victory, and I bet Indian is barely holding on despite all the corporate rah-rah. Motorcycles aren't selling. Harley is just the first victim because of their size. It will all filter down eventually.
 

So..... how do you really feel?
 
I consider myself a “regular” (irregular?) blue collar guy. And the Indian brand appeals to because I like having a choice in the American Motorcycle market.

some people think it’s ludicrous to spend 20k on a motorcycle, Frankly I think spending 50 to 60K on a truck is stupid but people do it every day...
Hopefully Harley and Indian will do well.
I love my Indian but if they go out of business next week I won’t lose any sleep over it.
Ride what ya got and be happy
 
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Harley isn't selling motorcycles. They're selling the idea of freedom. The bike is just an accessory.


My view from the bridge is that Harley Davidson stopped being a true motorcycle manufacturer a couple decades ago and segued into becoming a megalithic marketing company first and foremost and a motorcycle assembler, secondarily. They license their name out to others in order to attach it to practically every sort of product under the sun, from H-D badged Ford pick-up trucks to babies' onesies to toilet paper with their name emblazoned on every sheet.

Their claim to be an all American machine rings hollow for at least the last 20 years as many other foreign bikes out there actually have more American parts or components on them than do many Harleys. I believe that most modern day Harlot owners/riders would be shocked to know how few of their bikes' components are actually still "made in America". My two Ohio-made VTX 1800s had waaaaay more American parts on them than does the typical hog.

H-D is and has been the big dog (pig???) in motorcycling for a long, long time, so it is only natural that as their traditional, targeted market is aging, thinning or otherwise disappearing, other demographics, the competition and consumer tastes and habits continue to change, and they keep becoming more expensive/less accessible or affordable, they are among the first to feel the most dire pains of a rapidly changing marketplace. They did this to themselves as they have been slow to respond to these market forces and quite resistant to changing their game and that can be the death knell for any large company in a very competitive and fluid business environment.
 
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i hate to use expression but its true; you gotta be a 'man's man' to ride this machine; also think you need to be 6'0 or taller maybe 5-11 so that filters down a lot of potential owners right there. This motorcycle is like a wild bull is what i tell people what the ride is like
 
Don't be heightist, or @mexican will show you how it's done.

We also had a 5' lady on the forum riding an RIII a few years back.