Bead balancing. Does it work or is it snake oil.

[TriumPhil]

Spin balancing works, we know it works, we know how it works, and it's not exactly difficult to get done when you get new tires.

I want proof - - that beads work on a motorcycle, and on wheels known to be unbalanced without them. Until then, they're snake oil. "It works - we just can't prove it" isn't something I for one am willing to take on faith, in any circumstance, including this one.

Because one thing we do know about human psychology, and that is that everyone who believes they work, and really want to believe they work, will convince themselves they work. Even if the bike does the conga sideways down the road, people will sit there with a grin going "this is smooth as glass!"

Well, cr0ft, since you're the anal retentive one in this crowd and you have a computer and you are a details -oriented analytical, why don't you do the heavy-lifting you require - what many of us have already done to our satisfaction - and get back to us with your prima facie findings if they are at variance with our results, derived ipso facto .

Your insinuation that those of us who use reliably proven alternatives to conventional tire balancing weights are deluding ourselves or experiencing the placebo effect is both insulting and condescending, two perspectives that are, at this juncture, rather redundant fallbacks for you.

 

[EasTexRIII]

Spin balancing works, we know it works, we know how it works, and it's not exactly difficult to get done when you get new tires.

I want proof - independently measured and verified proof - that beads work on a motorcycle, and on wheels known to be unbalanced without them. Until then, they're snake oil. "It works - we just can't prove it" isn't something I for one am willing to take on faith, in any circumstance, including this one.

Because one thing we do know about human psychology, and that is that everyone who believes they work, and really want to believe they work, will convince themselves they work. Even if the bike does the conga sideways down the road, people will sit there with a grin going "this is smooth as glass!"

Hhhhhhhhhhhhh.............................. And again

Empirical evidence, also known as sense experience, is the knowledge or source of knowledge acquired by means of the senses, particularly by observation and experimentation. The term comes from the Greek word for experience, ἐμπειρία (empeiría). After Immanuel Kant, it is common in philosophy to call the knowledge thus gained a posteriori knowledge (in contrast to a priori knowledge).

 

[EasTexRIII]

 

[hvacnr]

I just installed my placebo (ride-on) today and went on a test drive. i got to say it does ride better than Lemon pledge. Seriously, Many of us have tried the various way to balance our tires and KNOW what we KNOW. The others that are unable to think for themselves and is unwilling to do the research for themselves should keep their comment as an opinion and not the only way to go. if it wasn't for those of us willing to try other options we would all be nonthinking good little Communist. (Do as they say do not think, thinking not allowed)

 

[EasTexRIII]

I just installed my placebo (ride-on) today and went on a test drive. i got to say it does ride better than Lemon pledge. Seriously, Many of us have tried the various way to balance our tires and KNOW what we KNOW. The others that are unable to think for themselves and is unwilling to do the research for themselves should keep their comment as an opinion and not the only way to go. if it wasn't for those of us willing to try other options we would all be nonthinking good little Communist. (Do as they say do not think, thinking not allowed)

It doesn't REALLY ride better. You're just "telling yourself" that it rides better!

 

[1olbull]

The proof is in the hundreds of dollars I save by mounting the tires myself and balance using Ride On. One other small point...both my rockets have and will run all the way up to the limiter in high gear with no shake, rattle or vibration...and that's proof enough for me.

To the limiter in 5th gear?
My gawd, Morris, have you set your limiter under 6K?
Mine won't get close to the rev limit in 4th or 5th and actually goes faster in 4th.

 

[hvacnr]

It doesn't REALLY ride better. You're just "telling yourself" that it rides better!

I can't be telling myself that, I don't talk to Free thinkers... By the way how do you get oil out of a snake???

 

[TriumPhil]

Ride it and ride it hard or just set it afire.

 

[EasTexRIII]

By the way how do you get oil out of a snake???

I think the Brits call that a wanker

 

[EasTexRIII]

The proof is in the hundreds of dollars I save by mounting the tires myself and balance using Ride On. One other small point...both my rockets have and will run all the way up to the limiter in high gear with no shake, rattle or vibration...and that's proof enough for me.

Update: Thanks for advising on this Ride-On product "OG" Tex!
When I ran the Balance Beads they worked............ Up to approx. 100 - At 105 to 120 the bike would gradually get a little more vibration - Not terribly bad tho.
I just switched to the Ride-On, mainly because of the multiple flats I've had on a brand new rear ExMax in about 4000+ miles
Now I don't have to worry about the tires going completely flat if punctured AND, the product WORKS BETTER THAN THE BALANCE BEADS!!!!!!!!! SMOOTH as @HansO 's head
More costly? Yes - $48.00 worth of Ride-On for both tires vs $10 worth of Balance Beads. worth it? YES!!!!!!!!

Disclaimer: HansO, this is an advertisement for your head.......... and Lemon Pledge!