Advice and Reassurance

sunny said:

what you didnt ike about V4

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- The Diavel is opposite from the Rocket in every way.. and for me I did not enjoy that
- It’s narrow and feels way less substantial between your legs. I loved the feeling of riding the freight train that is the Rocket 3
- Seating position felt half dirt bike/standard and I did not enjoy it.. The Rocket is more relaxed and can be aggressive when you want it to be..
- Stock seat is not comfortable on the Diavel at all for me
- The engine on the Ducati is very race bike derived. It wants to be revd .. and ridden like a sports bike
- After experiencing the low end grunt on the Rocket.. I missed it immensely. Felt like it was more useable at legal speeds than the Diavel
- Stock suspension is hard as a rock..
- Fit and finish is not up to the asking price. Rear passenger seat cover vibrates and looks dumb when riding like its loose but its by design
- Wires and tubes are held on by rubber ties to make them look tidy that just come off from the riding vibrations or washing the bike
- Battery is not easily accessible and requires removing body work to get at
- Within 1 month of owning it .. Radiator fans stopped working bike over heated and went into limp mode in a traffic circle and almost caused a car to rear end me. Fixed under Warranty but COME ON..
- Spent more time in the shop than the actual time I had it in the garage
Did not trust the bike at all after this
- This was on me.. I bought the V4 sight unseen and never test rode it before buying it.. Just got curious about the latest new toy .. I wanted to keep both but I also wanted to keep my marriage
- Way better after market support for the Diavel.. but exhaust options are insanely priced $9000 for an exhaust .. just insanity.

Hatata said:

- Fit and finish is not up to the asking price. Rear passenger seat cover vibrates and looks dumb when riding like its loose but its by design
- Wires and tubes are held on by rubber ties to make them look tidy that just come off from the riding vibrations or washing the bike
- Battery is not easily accessible and requires removing body work to get at
- Within 1 month of owning it .. Radiator fans stopped working bike over heated and went into limp mode in a traffic circle and almost caused a car to rear end me. Fixed under Warranty but COME ON..
- Spent more time in the shop than the actual time I had it in the garage
Did not trust the bike at all after this

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Matches my experience with Ducatis. Beautiful garbage. So far, Triumph has been far more reliable for me, except for a "sealed" fog light that let water in.

stingray said:

Mine spent 6 months in the shop the first year I owned it. Paid cash, no financing, no help from Triumph or dealer for months and months until I finally hired an attorney and they agreed to refund. Then that very day, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH they found the problem. A fn mazing huh?

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At least it's not a HD. Every single one of my riding buddies that have new HDs all say the same thing you went through but worse. 3 years of owning one and it's spent over 12 of those months in the shop for multiple issues with no fixes and long wait times.

If it’s of any help, I owned a Kawasaki 1400GTR. I found that top heavy, a pig to ride at slow speeds and tough to move about the garage.
I’ve owned my 2023 3R for almost a year and put 3k miles on it. It is an absolutely fabulous machine. It handles beautifully, is wonderful to ride, supremely comfortable and a real head turner. It is heavy to push around the garage but with the weight low down, it’s not as bad as the GTR.
Being an old shortie (63 yrs) I can get my feet on the deck and love every moment I’m riding my bike.
Test ride an R and a GT for at least 2 hrs a piece and see how you get on.
Personally this Rocket is the best bike I’ve ever owned, and I’ve had a fair few over my 45 odd years of motorcycling. I won’t be parting with this one.
If you take the plunge, be ready to speak to lots of admirers…..

Taz said:

I'll add my perspective as a long time Ducait owner (from the 80's) going back to the Paso 906. I had several v-twin Diavels and had an xDiavel S. I rode V4s a few times and had thought about trading in my twin. While the V4 might be a touch quicker, I definitely think it lost some of the character of the v-twin. While the tuned it for lower peak power and more mid-range than the Panigale, the v-twin still felt better to me at low revs.

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I knew a guy with a Paso, he was on his third or fourth engine, apparently a problem endemic to that model.

Many thanks for the replies. I feel much better about taking the plunge now, only decision I have to make now is which of my current bikes it will replace .

I don't really use my bikes as "Daily Drivers", I use a car for work mostly, I probably do 4-6k on each bike per year. I have a fully equipped workshop, so DIY is not a problem, I do all the work on my current bikes and cars. I use an Abba skylift for some jobs on both bikes, I haven't yet found an adapter to use on the Rocket, is there such a thing?, would be great if I could still use the skylift. The weight is not a big deal, not that much more than the bikes I have.

So now I just have to find the right Rocket

Eisenfarn said:

Many thanks for the replies. I feel much better about taking the plunge now, only decision I have to make now is which of my current bikes it will replace .

I don't really use my bikes as "Daily Drivers", I use a car for work mostly, I probably do 4-6k on each bike per year. I have a fully equipped workshop, so DIY is not a problem, I do all the work on my current bikes and cars. I use an Abba skylift for some jobs on both bikes, I haven't yet found an adapter to use on the Rocket, is there such a thing?, would be great if I could still use the skylift. The weight is not a big deal, not that much more than the bikes I have.

So now I just have to find the right Rocket

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I wasn't going to chime in, as I think that nearly all has been covered. But you just said DIY is not a problem, so here's the answer to "valve clearances can cost around a grand (maybe to check- more to swap shims) and need to be done every 20k" question you had.....