A little Lean Angle fun

[1K9]

Shock Math, because I'm curious for myself:
Progressive 444s - $600
Wilbers 540 - $780
Wilbers 640 - $981
Wilbers 642 - $1502
Nitron - $1100
Hagon Nitro - $592
Hagon 2810 - $335 (what are they smoking over there)

Colors etc add to cost for each. The 2810 is stupidly inexpensive, no idea how it rides, but its adjustable for damping and pre-load with buyer selected length and rate, pretty serious deal for $335.

Here's the interesting part, service cost and availability. Getting 4 years / 40k Miles, per service is a lot from what I've been told by the service guys for suspension, they seem to think we should do it ever 2/20k at least. So if you figure the cost of ownership including the first service or replacement in the case of the 444s, the Hagon's truly stand out as a serious value for the dollar and the Wilbers start to run away from the group because of service cost (especially on the 642s...).

Knowing none of us religiously service our suspension as often as the pros say we should, totally including myself in that, the 444s, Nitros, and 540 are fairly closely priced. I suspect the 444s would be the most comfortable, then Nitros, then Wilbers, but haven't ridden on Nitros to say. I can say the Wilbers will be far more sporty feeling than the 444s, at the cost of being far less comfortable lol. I am very curious about Nitros myself now, they offer a lot of length options and a wide range of spring rates...

The Hagon have budget prices but I don't know who to choose the correct shock.

 

[Claviger]

Just give them a call and tell them your weight, luggage/passenger use, and they should be able to match the right spring for you.

 

[Claviger]

From another Triumph forum:
eric the quality difference between the nitro's and the 2810's is that the nitro's have a s/s damper body and spring and anodised alloy end fittings which are more weather resitant compared to the 2810's black painted mild steel damper body.
but i would like to point out that the 2810's are now available from hagon uk with a s/s damper body for £249, their website has not been updated to show them but i have a set in thruxton length on my t100
performance wise the nitro's have a threaded preload adjuster which is useful for precise preload adjustment for the race track but a pain to adjust for a passenger or luggage, the 2810's use a more conventional 3 step preload adjusting ring, while it does'nt give you the precision of a thread adjuster it is far easier and quicker to adjust (which in the real world means you are more likely to use it).
the nitro's and the 2810's use the same 10 position compression/rebound adjuster (clicker). but the nitro's use a 38mm damper body/piston which should resist damper fade under extreme conditions compared to the 2810's 28mm damper body/piston, to put some perspective on it for you i used to be a club racer and like to ride fast but i have'nt had an issue with damper fade on the 2810's

 

[1K9]

Shock Math, because I'm curious for myself:
Progressive 444s - $600
Wilbers 540 - $780
Wilbers 640 - $981
Wilbers 642 - $1502
Nitron - $1100
Hagon Nitro - $592
Hagon 2810 - $335 (what are they smoking over there)

Colors etc add to cost for each. The 2810 is stupidly inexpensive, no idea how it rides, but its adjustable for damping and pre-load with buyer selected length and rate, pretty serious deal for $335.

Here's the interesting part, service cost and availability. Getting 4 years / 40k Miles, per service is a lot from what I've been told by the service guys for suspension, they seem to think we should do it ever 2/20k at least. So if you figure the cost of ownership including the first service or replacement in the case of the 444s, the Hagon's truly stand out as a serious value for the dollar and the Wilbers start to run away from the group because of service cost (especially on the 642s...).

Knowing none of us religiously service our suspension as often as the pros say we should, totally including myself in that, the 444s, Nitros, and 540 are fairly closely priced. I suspect the 444s would be the most comfortable, then Nitros, then Wilbers, but haven't ridden on Nitros to say. I can say the Wilbers will be far more sporty feeling than the 444s, at the cost of being far less comfortable lol. I am very curious about Nitros myself now, they offer a lot of length options and a wide range of spring rates...

 

[Tal]

A lot of people under estimate the rockets actual ability to carry speed through corners

too true!...i find i can be quite aggressive with chucking it from one side to the other because of the progressives in the front and the ohlins...set up for me,,,on the rear. A lot of trust in the tyres helps...my rear tyre needs changing now and i am aware of this when going for it..dont want the arse end sliding out on me.
Edit...Also, i look way up the road, especially on corners. It helps me decide if the corner is opening up or tightening on me...i can adjust my line to suit. I prefer out to in on entering the corner, that way if the corner suddenly tightens up i'm somewhere in the right spot.
I find by searching way up the road i can scan the perimeters too for unusual sign...animals...tractors...cut grass clippings...stones or rocks...i make a point of doing this.

 

[Tripps]

I have the Nitros on my Touring, better than stock, but not a game changer or anything, bike is still a pig, lol. I would say it's weakest in rebound.

 

[1K9]

Scott; now that I have the chance to upgrade. 13 or 12.5? 444?

Are the top and bottom attachment rings similar in all these shocks? Iv been lucky and all shocks have fitted OK except for an old Valkyrie set which heard very hard to fit into the bottom pins. Some shocks have a metal sleeve some have just a rubber damper.

 

[Tal]

FWIW...i have these on my shocks....Fast Eddy Sports has them...they come in a few different colors as you can see..They are metal.

 

[Claviger]

Nice finishing touch. I used a similar but different option from Pro-Bolt. I think I like those more you linked though.


Cone Washers

 

[warp9.9]

Junk might as well go back to the stock ones.