205 or 225, & DS Question

Yeah, another DS myth. I just completed my second SS1000 in a month all while running darkside.

Thanks everyone for the additional detail. I will be going with the 225 for sure.

I still have decent tread on the front Metz, do you find that is a problem running it in the front after the switch over of the rear?

I have hated Metz tires from the start. Had them on a custom bike I once had that had an odd size only Metz made. I sold the bike, thats how bad I hated them.
 
Where are you guys buying the Raptor's? Not finding many choices online.

I assume you are getting the ZR tire, correct?
 
I just tried to purchase a Riken Raptor 225/55 ZR 16 at discount tires and they told me it's been discontinued.
Now I have to experiment with something new again?
 
I am replacing my first Darkside experience after 11,720 miles. I've been riding on a BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 225/55R16. Love the stability and ride. I wore the side tread to the wire ascending and descending the Blue Ridge Parkway and connected roads. FUN!!! Thinking about replacing it with the BFGoodrich g-Force Super Sport A/S (W-Speed Rated) 225/55ZR16. Would love some input on other brands being run now.
 
Yeah, another DS myth. I just completed my second SS1000 in a month all while running darkside.


I don't know who started the "myth", but it is 100% factual that a CT will require more rider input (effort) than a MT in all but straight line riding. I ran a 225/50 VR16 for about 7,000 miles on my R3 and the differences in countersteering, turn-in and transitioning into and out of corners and turns between it and any of the MTs others here choose to run is very noticeable and, for me, unacceptable.


There's been sufficient trial and error among confirmed R3 darksiders to validate that car tires can be used reasonably safely and effectively, but for many such as myself ( an aggressive rider that spends most of his saddle time in the hills and on the twisties) the compromises in handling and safety are no where near worth the dollars saved by riding on car tires. The differences between the two tire types is real, not perceived, but nothing will convince extremists that that is so, therefore, in a forum such as ours, we tend to let folks figure things out for themselves once they have gathered as much info as they require to make their own decision, informed or otherwise. The fact that something can be done is neither a real nor a valid argument that it should be done. This subject has been discussed, debated and argued ad nauseum, so there's no reason for my commentary here to inflame another circular conversation.

Ride whatever you choose to ride HarleyToo! I trust and hope that whatever you choose, you'll enjoy many more miles of safe riding in your future.
 
I am replacing my first Darkside experience after 11,720 miles. I've been riding on a BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 225/55R16. Love the stability and ride. I wore the side tread to the wire ascending and descending the Blue Ridge Parkway and connected roads. FUN!!! Thinking about replacing it with the BFGoodrich g-Force Super Sport A/S (W-Speed Rated) 225/55ZR16. Would love some input on other brands being run now.

Did you get any noticeable wear at all on the sidewalls as opposed to the inner and outer parts of the tread or "sidetread" as you called it, Mark?
 
[QUOTE="TriumPhil,


There's been sufficient trial and error among confirmed R3 darksiders to validate that car tires can be used reasonably safely and effectively, but for many such as myself ( an aggressive rider that spends most of his saddle time in the hills and on the twisties) the compromises in handling and safety are no where near worth the dollars saved by riding on car tires. The differences between the two tire types is real, not perceived, but nothing will convince extremists that that is so, therefore, in a forum such as ours, we tend to let folks figure things out for themselves once they have gathered as much info as they require to make their own decision, informed or otherwise. The fact that something can be done is neither a real nor a valid argument that it should be done. This subject has been discussed, debated and argued ad nauseum, so there's no reason for my commentary here to inflame another circular conversation.[/QUOTE]

Phil you should try everything at least once....;) I went with the Yokohama AVS ES100 245/50ZR16 about 8 years ago,the traction was superb. Cornering aggressively required a lot more counter steering than i really wanted and was used to but you learn after a day riding on it. My biggest hassle back then was finding someone willing to put it on my bike.
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Did you get any noticeable wear at all on the sidewalls as opposed to the inner and outer parts of the tread or "sidetread" as you called it, Mark?

Phil, Good bourbon leads to my poor word choice and description, sorry. It gets worse as the night progresses :). I have even wear across the flat portion of the tire, and it is worn to the indicators. The rounded 'corner' tread is worn to the point where some steel strands are becoming visible. I would call it the taint portion of the tire. Taint sidewall, taint flat tread. Cheers!
 
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