2014 R3T issues?

[Mike]

After totaling my 05 Classic in '16, I picked up a new '15 Touring. I waited for 600 miles then installed a set of TORs, removed the air box system and installed a RAMAIR filter, remapped the ecu, and lowered the rear with new shocks. The mileage is in mid to upper 30's, city riding will be in lower range, but the Rocket is so much improved. It runs out much better with the restrictions removed, not quite as quick as the classic but much better then stock. Make it yours and have fun.

 

[DodahMan]

welcome to the fun, as soon as you open that thing up and set the engine free, that whole pesky fuel efficiency thing everyone worries about, will be a memory of the past, because you won't care how much fuel it uses, once the fun factor takes over, nothing else matters. that combined with winning your first few street drags, (I say winning, but it usually ends up being more like annihilating the competition) and yea, you'll understand and just go with it.

Not how I ride though. I like torque at a lower rpm. I would like to get the thing opened up but I need to understand what I am getting into. If hotrod performance was my gig, I would have bought rhat 2004 Yamaha Vmax stock for $3500. I was hoping that the tour model would be fun and powerful yet good for longer rides.

 

[DodahMan]

After totaling my 05 Classic in '16, I picked up a new '15 Touring. I waited for 600 miles then installed a set of TORs, removed the air box system and installed a RAMAIR filter, remapped the ecu, and lowered the rear with new shocks. The mileage is in mid to upper 30's, city riding will be in lower range, but the Rocket is so much improved. It runs out much better with the restrictions removed, not quite as quick as the classic but much better then stock. Make it yours and have fun.

I am getting mid 30s now so it sounds like I ought to at least be able to improve. How did you know which map to use?

 

[DodahMan]

After totaling my 05 Classic in '16, I picked up a new '15 Touring. I waited for 600 miles then installed a set of TORs, removed the air box system and installed a RAMAIR filter, remapped the ecu, and lowered the rear with new shocks. The mileage is in mid to upper 30's, city riding will be in lower range, but the Rocket is so much improved. It runs out much better with the restrictions removed, not quite as quick as the classic but much better then stock. Make it yours and have fun.

I guess the reason regarding the classic being quicker is the fact it is lighter? Same engine and gearing, right?

 

[Frosty Rider]

i'm by no means the expert on performance in here, not even close, but my understanding is you get the tune to match your setup, on my 2010 R3T I have a RamAir intake, Jardine exhaust (header all the way back) Power commander 5 and AutoTune, I received 2 tunings from a gentleman here named Hanso, one was for the Power Commander, the other for the Main ECU. This provides a lot of torque at the low end, There are now no restrictions as the secondaries are opened up, the rev limiter has been increased, the temp for the cooling fans to kick on has been lowered. The bike is still civilized, but if I want to lay a nice strip of rubber down the street (just to p1ss off my one neighbor) it will do it in a heart beat.

 

[DodahMan]

i'm by no means the expert on performance in here, not even close, but my understanding is you get the tune to match your setup, on my 2010 R3T I have a RamAir intake, Jardine exhaust (header all the way back) Power commander 5 and AutoTune, I received 2 tunings from a gentleman here named Hanso, one was for the Power Commander, the other for the Main ECU. This provides a lot of torque at the low end, There are now no restrictions as the secondaries are opened up, the rev limiter has been increased, the temp for the cooling fans to kick on has been lowered. The bike is still civilized, but if I want to lay a nice strip of rubber down the street (just to p1ss off my one neighbor) it will do it in a heart beat.

Awesome. Just riding and cruising at 60 to 70 what kind of mileage do you get?

 

[TURBO200R4]

Not how I ride though. I like torque at a lower rpm. I would like to get the thing opened up but I need to understand what I am getting into. If hotrod performance was my gig, I would have bought rhat 2004 Yamaha Vmax stock for $3500. I was hoping that the tour model would be fun and powerful yet good for longer rides.

Example
when i rebuilt a 69 chey chevelle for my son i put a small tac weld on the carb so the 4 barrels would not open. (restricting it) so he would not kill his self.

now it is the same with triumph they close the secondary's so as to limit power. sort of like adjusting the cable so u do not get wot.
now if u fix the plates to go wide open then u can open the throttle wot or just as much as u can stand
it sounds like u do not like to turn in the higher rpms which is ok but i set my secondary's to open wide above 3500 and u can definitely fell the difference. when i am hauling a$$ i am always above 3500.

now when u start changing maps (do not do this if u still have the cats/mufflers) that is usually when u start losing mileage.
now this is just a basic info so i would take my time an figure the pros and cons and there r a lot of them.

 

[Frosty Rider]

Awesome. Just riding and cruising at 60 to 70 what kind of mileage do you get?

I honestly have no idea, half of the time I never know how fast I am going, here we have a little bit of an out, when it comes to speeding, Ministry of Transportation states in the motorcycle learners handbook that you are required to go with the flow of traffic especially on the highway, so essentially I get on the highway, look at all the lanes, pick the fastest, and then look ahead at all of the cars I have to pass, you know, just to keep the flow of traffic going. I actually fought a speeding ticket on those grounds and won.

The closest I can tell you is that when I was travelling to Stearns KY and back last spring, I would average about 230 miles to a tank, almost double what I do driving around in the city, and your highways make long distance driving a pleasant experience compared to the crap we drive on here

 

[DodahMan]

I honestly have no idea, half of the time I never know how fast I am going, here we have a little bit of an out, when it comes to speeding, Ministry of Transportation states in the motorcycle learners handbook that you are required to go with the flow of traffic especially on the highway, so essentially I get on the highway, look at all the lanes, pick the fastest, and then look ahead at all of the cars I have to pass, you know, just to keep the flow of traffic going. I actually fought a speeding ticket on those grounds and won.

The closest I can tell you is that when I was travelling to Stearns KY and back last spring, I would average about 230 miles to a tank, almost double what I do driving around in the city, and your highways make long distance driving a pleasant experience compared to the crap we drive on here

That's good. I think about the occasions when I will have to run on the highway with a speed limit of 80mph. In those locals, if you don't run 90, you get run over. Good example is I40 westbound in NM. I rode once ther for a full hour at a flat 90mph on a victory vision.

If you ever get to do some real exploring in the SW of our country, I can tell you the great routes to consider.

 

[DodahMan]

Example
when i rebuilt a 69 chey chevelle for my son i put a small tac weld on the carb so the 4 barrels would not open. (restricting it) so he would not kill his self.

now it is the same with triumph they close the secondary's so as to limit power. sort of like adjusting the cable so u do not get wot.
now if u fix the plates to go wide open then u can open the throttle wot or just as much as u can stand
it sounds like u do not like to turn in the higher rpms which is ok but i set my secondary's to open wide above 3500 and u can definitely fell the difference. when i am hauling a$$ i am always above 3500.

now when u start changing maps (do not do this if u still have the cats/mufflers) that is usually when u start losing mileage.
now this is just a basic info so i would take my time an figure the pros and cons and there r a lot of them.

As I understand it, Triumph detuned the tour model in order to get the most torque at the lowest rpm. They claim 150ft/lb at 2500 rpm. A tuner here recently perfected his bike and posted the hp/torque numbers. What I remember was something like 4600rpm to get 150ft/lb and it maxed out at 185ft/lb at 5360 rpm. After that, his hp climbed to well over 200 but torque was falling.

No, I don't want to do wheelies but I would like a bit more sound and if I can performance without destroying the torque curve.