2008 or 2009

[HellFire]

Those guys are right on the money .... there are used bikes out there with unbelievably low miles, owned by little old men who only ride on Sundays. And alot of them have big money spent on bling already installed. Hell, I would be willing to bet that you could look around and find prior years already set up how you want, low-low miles and priced to sell. ABS is the only thing gonna be missing from a used bike, and is it really all that important?
Like he said, ... not to many 19yr olds out there with R3's. All old men like us.

 

[shortstop2828]

Hey guys as for the 2011's they are not out yet. I tried to get one but 2011 not here just yet. My suggestion is find a dealer you are comfortable with and who seems to be on the level. I ordered from the dealer I bought my other bike from and he took care of me. $700 off bike bike. $400 off cost of all the extras I ordered (why I had to wait 2 weeks to pick up which should be this Thursday) and $300 off installation of the extras and no delivery or handling charge. The 2010 comes pretty loaded already. I am Pretty sure the $2500.00 for clothing or Accessories offer from Triumph is still valid for 2009 and older R3T. Would think you should be able to get a 2009 or 2008 for much less than MSRP of the 2010. My 2 cents

 

[RescueRev]

Thank you all for the information and feedback. OK I get the picture now and I would say it looks pretty good.

RescueRev

 

[snowbandit]

Hey guys as for the 2011's they are not out yet. I tried to get one but 2011 not here just yet. My suggestion is find a dealer you are comfortable with and who seems to be on the level. I ordered from the dealer I bought my other bike from and he took care of me. $700 off bike bike. $400 off cost of all the extras I ordered (why I had to wait 2 weeks to pick up which should be this Thursday) and $300 off installation of the extras and no delivery or handling charge. The 2010 comes pretty loaded already. I am Pretty sure the $2500.00 for clothing or Accessories offer from Triumph is still valid for 2009 and older R3T. Would think you should be able to get a 2009 or 2008 for much less than MSRP of the 2010. My 2 cents

If the 2011 are not out yet why do I have one in the garage with over 2,500 miles on it.. Ya they came out over a month and half ago.. I had an 2009 R3T before it was totaled in an accident. Purchased the 2011 to replace it and it cost me less than the 2009 fully setup. the 2011 comes with way more pre-installed...

 

[Molinoman]

Snowbandit, not sure yet if that is correct...I'm waiting on my dealer to get back to me. Historically, the new R3's and R3T models are released late December or early January. One train of thought is that the 2010's were "loaded up" with accessories to move them off the showroom floors in preparation for a somewhat revamped 2011 R3T model. I guess if you have a title and it is listed as a 2011 model....then I will stand corrected.

Again, because of what you had said in an earlier post about having a 2011 is the reason why I am asking my dealer if the 2011 model was released earlier. They have a fully loaded 2010 black R3T on the floor (I am assuming like yours) for, I think, around $17,800...I'll see if I can find the pic.



2010 I am talking about



Another view with all the accessories



Price sticker on bike




List of accessories


Dennis

189 dtg Dubai
190 dtg Home (Stallion and R3T ordering/buying time)

 

[HellFire]

I would suppose that the first thing to look at is the accessory list, you have to assume at least 100% markup on those. There could very well have been an additional price break to the dealer from the factory for the "package". Could be that cost isn't even a grand, and anything that was a replacement for stock parts has the value of the "take-offs" to consider further reducing the dealers costs. Even though it's a "new" bike, since it's last years model lenders will sometimes work their valuations as a "used" vehicle.
I worked as a used car salesman for awhile right out of college for a Pontiac dealer. The real money is always in the used retail market since prices are arbitrary and values are perceived, this could sometimes make for a huge net profit (and commission). The next best payday for a salesman was selling new cars that were either prior year or hail damaged. Just like hail damaged vehicles where the insurance company has already paid a nice sum to the dealer for the damage, the factory has either credited back some of the original cost or offered a rebate to the dealer to make the price more appealing to customers in order to move the old stock. Typically the older the stock, the bigger the credit to the dealer. I hated getting roped into selling a current year new car, the commission was always the minimum ($100) because the buyer knew exactly what the dealer was paying for the car.
So don't be afraid to low-ball the dealer on old stock, chances are there's more money there to play with than one would think. And if it was such a great price or model ... it would have sold already right?
I advise pretending that the accessories don't exist and it's value is the same as an extra clean used bike from the same year. Check Kelly Blue Book and N.A.D.A. Appraisal guide for used prices, compare and average them, then make 'em an offer based on if it was a used bike. Whats the worst that could happen? ... they come back with a counter offer. Old stock and used stock is a game of poker, so keep your poker face on and don't show any excitement over it. When you buy a brand new, current year vehicle, dealer cost is easy to find out and hold over their head. So you can act like an over excited little boy on those deals .... the prices are pretty much set in stone with there.
Just get one, you won't regret owning an R3 from any year. What a bike!
And good luck.

 

[Molinoman]

One thing on that (I used to sell cars to...real cars...Fords...just kidding), in order for what Hellfire said to be true you have to have the new model year out already. In this case I dont't believe they are yet. However, that sticker was giving you an idea of what those accessories would have cost you if they were not included in the original bike asssembly. In this case Triumph is basically discounting the whole lot and more power to you if you can get them to move on the MSRP on the bike (at least till a 2011 shows up). The value on those accessories is probably (to the dealer) around 30-50% less than what was listed so you are still getting a pretty decent deal on the bike even if you paid the $16,999 list price as stated.

This model is listed as an "SE" version of the R3T so the dealer did not have to have any money come out of their pocket to put those accessories on it. As has been stated before a lot can depend on your previous relationship with the dealer on how much additional you may get to deduct from that price as a whole and how sales are going at the time.

You have some leverage but not as much as you may think. But once the new 2011 shows up the whole ball game changes more to your favor if you want the 2010. Also the 2011 if it is "revamped" may not come with any accessories at all other than what you order...again...previous relationship (a good one hopefully) can be a great factor in your favor in getting some kind of discount on the MSRP and a percentage off of the accessories. Bottom line though is that the dealer has to have some incentive to sell the bike (ie: profit so that they can stay in business), if they make hardly anything on the bike and little or nothing on the accessories then you won't see them around for long.

Good luck.

Dennis

189 dtg Dubai
190 dtg Home (Stallion and R3T ordering/buying time)

 

[HellFire]

Sorry, I thought we were talking about R.R.'s '08 and '09.

And I feel that having a "good relationship" with a dealer is like believing that you have a good relationship with a dealer. Trusting a salesman is a good way to get something pointed broke off in your ars. Your power to make a good deal comes from information, like what's it worth tomorrow on the street, to your banker and printed in a used vehicle guide like N.A.D.A. and K.B.B. .

 

[HellFire]

There ya go, Skip talks sense ... and think of the showroom '08 and '09 just as used as the 500 mile bike that's been sitting in a guys garage under a cover for 2yrs. The one on the showroom with 250 miles has been sitting/ridden/pushed on and off short distances by people who didn't love her enough to buy. Sat on by wanna-be's and fingered by little greasy kids. This may not be the case with the ones you looked at, but shops in dealerships tend to use new inventory as their personal parts counter when something needs to be tested (diagnosed) and special ordered. Then there's the daily wipe-down by the high school kid the dealer hired to clean up around the place. He doesn't care about her, probably using a dirty old rag he picked up off the rag pile.

Yup, There are a lot of bikes out there that frighten the owners so much, they get worshiped and pampered rather than ridden. I'd take one of those bikes any day.

(Skip, wher'd ya go?)

 

[Molinoman]

Crazyman brought up the fact that the prices some guys are wanting on their used 08's and 09's are what the MSRP is on a 2010 or 2011(still not convinced on that but maybe they are out already)...I was just showing an example and with a lot of the accessories new on it as a comparison to "those" prices.

Dennis

189 dtg Dubai
190 dtg Home (Stallion and R3T ordering/buying time)