2005 R3 from new

[BusaStu]

Would be interested in seeing a picture of your bucket tool when finished and possibly in use ?

Sure probably next week some time

 

[Jac]

Hello and welcome from Maryland.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Would be interested in seeing a picture of your bucket tool when finished and possibly in use ?

These are pics of the one like I made.

The bottom drawing is a little strengthening piece that the inventor didn't have on his. Mine wanted to bow up under load without the steel brace. You might wonder why not just make the whole thing out of heavier metal, but the "fingers" that hold the bucket down have to be able to flex a little. CAUTION ! Never rotate the engine with a shim out ! It will knock a chunk out of the bucket.

Here is the actual one I made and used successfully.

Sorry about the blur, my old flip phone piece of $hit camera.

 

[Nat67]

These are pics of the one like I made.

The bottom drawing is a little strengthening piece that the inventor didn't have on his. Mine wanted to bow up under load without the steel brace. You might wonder why not just make the whole thing out of heavier metal, but the "fingers" that hold the bucket down have to be able to flex a little. CAUTION ! Never rotate the engine with a shim out ! It will knock a chunk out of the bucket.

Here is the actual one I made and used successfully.

Sorry about the blur, my old flip phone piece of $hit camera.

Ouch ! So I guess you still had to remove the ladder and shaft to replace the bucket ?
How easy are the shims to fish out , do you use a magnetic tool ? And does the compressor mark the buckets at all ? Thanks for that , I can get my head around it !

 

[scot in exile]

Welcome from one of the first Rocket owners in fact I also still have my 2005 along with a 2011 Roadster.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Ouch ! So I guess you still had to remove the ladder and shaft to replace the bucket ?
How easy are the shims to fish out , do you use a magnetic tool ? And does the compressor mark the buckets at all ? Thanks for that , I can get my head around it !

Yep, had to pull the ladder that time. The tool takes a little finesse, but I think it's much easier than timing the cams. Even with the holder tool they are a beotch to get into position to get the chain back on. The buckets are hardened that's why it blew a chunk out. The tool doesn't leave a mark on them. Before compressing the bucket with the cam lobe, you can spin them the a pick. There is a little cutout on one side where you can insert something like a pick or small screwdriver. Turn the bucket until the cutout is in an accessible area. Once the tool is in place and the lobe is off the shim, you can lift the shim a tiny bit and blow some air under it to eject it. I tried a pretty strong magnet but the oil film really hangs onto the shim. They have to come up straight or they will bind. I found lifting the edge slightly and blowing with compressed air worked the best.

 

[Nat67]

Yep, had to pull the ladder that time. The tool takes a little finesse, but I think it's much easier than timing the cams. Even with the holder tool they are a beotch to get into position to get the chain back on. The buckets are hardened that's why it blew a chunk out. The tool doesn't leave a mark on them. Before compressing the bucket with the cam lobe, you can spin them the a pick. There is a little cutout on one side where you can insert something like a pick or small screwdriver. Turn the bucket until the cutout is in an accessible area. Once the tool is in place and the lobe is off the shim, you can lift the shim a tiny bit and blow some air under it to eject it. I tried a pretty strong magnet but the oil film really hangs onto the shim. They have to come up straight or they will bind. I found lifting the edge slightly and blowing with compressed air worked the best.

Thanks mate , that's really useful info and saves a shed load of time !

 

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

Here is the one I made last year from Fred's drawing and pictures. It works well. Use finesse not force. I used mini screwdrivers, picks, air pressure and a very powerful mini magnet. When you retighten the screw in the cam ladder torque to only 10 newton meters.

The screwdriver tool was another guys idea. It helps to do the job too, but you have to be really strong and need 2 people to use it.

 

[1olbull]

Missed you the first time around, so a very belated WELCOME to the forum from WA State!

 

[Nat67]

Here is the one I made last year from Fred's drawing and pictures. It works well. Use finesse not force. I used mini screwdrivers, picks, air pressure and a very powerful mini magnet. When you retighten the screw in the cam ladder torque to only 10 newton meters.

The screwdriver tool was another guys idea. It helps to do the job too, but you have to be really strong and need 2 people to use it.

Exellent ! Thanks mate , I was wondering about the pressure to the cam ladder ? . I think that screw driver method would be an accident waiting to happen in mine and my heavy fisted mates hands . I am assuming the plastic sheeting in Fred's picture is to prevent the loss of wayward shims ?