I don't think that system will work on any of the newer 2010+ bikes that have ABS because of the location of the turbo. And that system reuses the stock header which isn't exactly ideal, and doesn't have a intercooler from what a remember. All things that could be a issue to try to make over 200 hp. Your still better having one of the few companies that are out there port the head and run different cams. Its cheaper for your power. The R3 is so underworked stock its almost crazy. If it was some bike where your lucky to hit 110hp to the tire with 5K invested it might make sense to go forced induction right off the bat.
Ive seen the tts kit, I like it a fair bit, its was my primary goto on my list, the exchange rate is just making it slaughter at the moment :/ , started this thread in hopes of perhaps getting a few ppl together to get wholesale pricing on it to soften the exchange rate blow, or finding alternates
Is there any real need for boosted engines on R3'3 , seems to be plenty +200 hp bikes on here with work on the internals and naturally aspirated , not sure how the price of getting there compares to the turbo/super charger route though , anybody ?
Is there any real need for boosted engines on R3'3 , seems to be plenty +200 hp bikes on here with work on the internals and naturally aspirated , not sure how the price of getting there compares to the turbo/super charger route though , anybody ?
2k aud + install for 205 ish with je bits, + install.... i live in canada.. there is nobody around me that will touch an install, if it was a harley id love to help ya is what they say :/ , id love to put to shame every hd in this country with the r3 if i can, maybe make like a little stamp i mash on my tank everyone i obliterate at the strip.
seems all natural hp gains vs tts kit are $ for $. (when looking at carpenter). maybe 200 is enough maybe the rest is just for ego / an extra inch of smile / track days ? , when tts says there supercharger kit will let you outpace 80% of the cars on the road, I have to think what the hell those other 20% are :/ .
Is there any real need for boosted engines on R3'3 , seems to be plenty +200 hp bikes on here with work on the internals and naturally aspirated , not sure how the price of getting there compares to the turbo/super charger route though , anybody ?
I guess it depends on what a person wants. Boosted power will give you all your power in the stock RPM range. A increase in low end torque as well. Running on motor will give you more power up top, and likely a higher RPM limit. Higher top speed in 1st before shifting and more RPM to work with means it will likely be faster in the 1/4 mile at equal HP. Price wise they are going to be similar, but I bet the N/a config will work out to be cheaper. You should have a aftermarket exhaust/header to make the best power with the blower setup, which you will need on the N/a setup. Your talking around 7K+ for the blower setup and complete exhaust with a tune for 220 to 240hp. Probably talking around 8k+ for one of the known r3 shops to setup the motor to 240+hp (all work included and new exhaust) probably around 7K if you did the engine work yourself. I would honestly think the logevity of the N/A motor would be better than the boosted motor. I don't know if the R3 has forged pistons but I can tell you that if your tune is ever a bit off with the forced induction, you don't have much of a saftey net before you can have major problems.
Most motorcycles out there are mostly maxed out stock, trying to get much more power is going to be tough. When you take a 2300cc engine with 4 valve heads, give it 1980s compression ratios, and redline it at a lower rpm you aren't going to make much power (torque on the other hand...). The good news is just by upping the compression ratio, ditching the stock exhaust/intake system, and a good porting with different grind cams will double the power on the r3. In the motorcycle world I can't think of any other mass production bike that has a engine that is as underworked as the rockets. I came from a m109r and none of those engines (or virtually any other cruisers engine) could make much more then 150 to 160hp before crank failure. You were better off with boosting those motors because you couldn't spin the RPM up much higher than stock and not have a engine case full of bits of metal. Hell to get 160whp N/A on a harley with a reliable motor you have to spend 10K on a S&S 143 engine! .
The rockets motor is perfect for making big power without a blower. Its big in cubes, its strong (proven to withstand over 300hp with stock driveline, try that with another cruiser), it has the capability of a much higher redline than any other conventional cruiser engine, it has 4 valve DOHC setup so you can flow massive air, and not to mention the engine block strength is not really a worry. I honestly think the market for blowers/turbos dried up a bit simply because there are engine builders making similar power on N/A for the same or less money. If I still had my 109r a turbo kit could push 180hp to the tire which is serious out of a v-twin, or 150 if the motor didn't blow up running more rpm than stock with aftermarket cams and ported heads. It would have been a no brainer which to go with in that situation.
About 6 months ago I was considering putting a turbo on my R3, but a certain brake got in the way and I couldn't see how she would approve it. (If it wasn't for her though I'd probably be living in a cave though, but I'd have a lot of toys in it.)
Anyway I did the design and costed the job including items like a PCV and auto-tune, new larger injectors etc and it would cost about $2500NZD to do. $10K's way too much.
I may still do this in the future if I can somehow justify it (not to myself, I can justify it easily to myself...)
Is there any real need for boosted engines on R3'3 , seems to be plenty +200 hp bikes on here with work on the internals and naturally aspirated , not sure how the price of getting there compares to the turbo/super charger route though , anybody ?
There's probably not a real need too, but just cos ya can. With the R3's low compression its almost a perfect sitter for any positive pressure system IMO.
See this Utube video, the guy gets his turbo R3 from 0-150mph in a very short time.