TuneECU, ECU on Roadster is not responding anymore

I guess I’m not getting it about the GiPro ?? The Roadster has a gear indicator on it, as well as a fuel distance-to-empty gauge.

Why not just take the secondary’s out on a Roadster and be done with it?
 
bryon540 said:
I guess I’m not getting it about the GiPro ?? The Roadster has a gear indicator on it, as well as a fuel distance-to-empty gauge.

Why not just take the secondary’s out on a Roadster and be done with it?
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With TuneECU out, the reason for getting it is a bit null. The idea is two-fold (ignoring the nice large display): Secondaries and ignition timing.
Taking the secondaries out physically is good 'n all, but the bike still thinks they are there and behaves accordingly. The GiRpo fools the bike into thinking it's always in a gear that has those secondaries fully open as well as adjusting timing.
Again though, this can now be done w/ TuneECU, so the value of the GiPro is reduced.
 
Yeah, the big thing is the timing ... Triumph makes the low gears "safe" by retarding the timing in 1st-3rd, the Pro eliminates the retard feature (Hence "w/ATRE", Advanced Timing Retard Eliminator). Like he said, you can do the same by reprogramming the ECM but for those like me who aren't comfortable tinkering with the software, the GiPro is plug n play and can be removed at any time (It doesn't cause warranty issues either). Plus R3's didn't have a gear position indicator "back in the day" until the Roadster, the nice big display keeps me from trying for 6th like a goof-ball.
 
I did some test runs today ... some w/ GiPro setting the bike to gear 4, some with doing nothing. Since I have the secondaries open via TuneECU, this should have been a test of timing changes alone (unless I'm crazy).
I didn't really notice a difference in acceleration. Not enough , at least, for me to be able to say "Yes it does perk up even more".
Perhaps the difference for just the timing isn't that big, or I'm just and insensitive jerk and didn't notice a non-huge change. Either is possible.
Anyone else been able to test just the ignition timing like this? Results?
 
You had the Pro on setting 3 and it didn't try to buck you off? Everyone who installed one and punched it from a stop said it stood up and tried to become a unicycle. I'm very suprised to hear you say you don't notice a difference.
A good test to see if it's working and on the correct setting is to be rolling along in 1st gear slowly, around 1500rpm and just roll on the throttle. If it wheelies easily, it's working ... if the wheelie is hard to make happen or doesn't at all, something isn't right.
 

I'll try that. I roll on pretty hard @ 2000rpm and, depending on traction, either spin wheel or she takes off with a fierce purpose. The secondaries make a big difference. I've just not noticed it w/ only the timing being altered. We'll see if there is a difference when the adjusted GiPro arrives and the bike thinks it's in 5th not 4th.
The R3 is powerful enough I'm a tad shy of dropping it hard until the clutch is fully engaged.

NOTE: Bear in mind that even w/ the GiPro off, due to TuneECU I'm still running secondaries at 100%.
 
You shouldn't have to get too radical with the throttle like snapping it open, a smooth quick application should get that front wheel rising very easily if the Pro is operating correctly. And remember, the 4 setting on the Pro isn't the one you want unless you desire 1st gear to be stock and 2-3 to only be the ones with the advanced timing. And any power interuption to it will reset it back to -- setting (found that one out the hard way). Since the Roadster is still sort of an odd duck, try switching between settings 2 and 3 and see what difference that makes too. One last idea, be sure you are changing the power and not something else like the dimmer settings, verify that by reviewing the manual again ... that little button can be confusing ya know.
Good luck, I'm anxious to hear how it turns out.
 
HellFire said:
You shouldn't have to get too radical with the throttle like snapping it open, a smooth quick application should get that front wheel rising very easily if the Pro is operating correctly...
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I'm anxious, then, for the R3R modified unit to arrive. Just got back from test runs ... be it 1500 or 2000rpm .. if I completely drop that throttle, she certainly pulls hard but shows no intention of pulling the front up. Setting 2 on the non-R3R modified Pro is the only stable one (making the bike think gear 4), so it's that setting or null until I get the R3R unit. I'll update the moment I have new data.
 
I have done a map for the Roadster, using TuneECU, that has the secondaries open 100% at all time, and that copies the ignition timing from 4th and 5th gear to 1-3 gear.

good performance but not breathtaking.
I also have triple JR-filter (similar to KN) and Roadster Tors with the OEM mapping for the TORS as base.

I wouldn't say that I can't get the front wheel of the ground (sorry for the double negation!) but it doesn't lift easily and certainly isn't keen on it.

something else differs regarding the roadster comparing to older Rockets.
might be the fuelmix?
my friends with rockets from 05 and forward do seem to have a little bit more acc, lifting front wheel and such.

it may also be that the older TORS are more open than the ones for the Roadster. I have no more ideas.
 

Your map w/ secondaries open at all times and copied timing .. if it's for stock pipes & intake, upload it and I'll give her a run and we'll see if mine acts similarly.
 
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