TTS Supercharger vs. Carpenter Head Rework?

Steel said:

If we are talking TTS VS Carpenter, it's TTS for below 3000 rpms. Now if you want some insane torque down low check out the turbo set up on billetcharger.com

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Major difference....!!!!

For my money, I'd go with a supercharger. Having insane HP at 9000 RPM is no doubt really cool and completely impractical in the day-to-day; the supercharger should give a much more linear power upgrade even at lower revs.

Really its not about money as they are all close its really about what are you doing. are your drag racing where you would use the 9000 rpms and power starting late (because your launching at a higher rpm or are you smacking some sport bike that pulled up on you at highway speed where you do not want nor have the time to go down two gears so your in the cam range. Or are you looking for the medium? Nev is exactly right about when the boost really takes off and belt slippage. In the bike above, that hits 300 horses; it would probably hit more if the belt did not slip. This can be changed to some extent by playing with the pulley diameters -- depending on the idler location on the cover. I exploded the cover Peter has and well the newer yet outdated replacement cover was a wee bit different in location and size of the idler. On mine because I increased the engine rpm I could use a larger pulley on the blower achieving the same boost at the higher rpm. All accidental as I was trying not to over speed the blower. This mistake allowed me more wrap on the pulleys and thus less slippage. I can tell you for sure it was a positive mistake! Nothing I planned.

I will make a note that this is just me playing , adapting and yes I have broken some stuff doing it. I wish I had a dyno to experiment but I have not been able to convince the wifey it is a needed item

It surprises me that consensus is that a turbocharger would produce more torque at lower RPM's than a supercharger? Why?

Seems to me the lag of the turbo winding up would happen way after 3000 rpm's?

Rocket3Pilot said:

It surprises me that consensus is that a turbocharger would produce more torque at lower RPM's than a supercharger? Why?

Seems to me the lag of the turbo winding up would happen way after 3000 rpm's?

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Supercharger boost is more linear tied to engine RPM. A turbo is a puffer supplied by the exhaust pressure so it spools up faster and whenever you mash her. Can be fun but needs a little more effort on proper tuning.

I did my TTS Stage 2 install myself. Richard at TTS is great to deal with and his customer service is second to none.

I've got about 30,000 miles since the install. Great performance and zero problems.

warp9.9 said:

Really its not about money as they are all close its really about what are you doing. are your drag racing where you would use the 9000 rpms and power starting late (because your launching at a higher rpm or are you smacking some sport bike that pulled up on you at highway speed where you do not want nor have the time to go down two gears so your in the cam range. Or are you looking for the medium? Nev is exactly right about when the boost really takes off and belt slippage. In the bike above, that hits 300 horses; it would probably hit more if the belt did not slip. This can be changed to some extent by playing with the pulley diameters -- depending on the idler location on the cover. I exploded the cover Peter has and well the newer yet outdated replacement cover was a wee bit different in location and size of the idler. On mine because I increased the engine rpm I could use a larger pulley on the blower achieving the same boost at the higher rpm. All accidental as I was trying not to over speed the blower. This mistake allowed me more wrap on the pulleys and thus less slippage. I can tell you for sure it was a positive mistake! Nothing I planned.

I will make a note that this is just me playing , adapting and yes I have broken some stuff doing it. I wish I had a dyno to experiment but I have not been able to convince the wifey it is a needed item

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Tell her all dyno’s now come with 2 free kitchen appliances!

Pres10 said:

I did my TTS Stage 2 install myself. Richard at TTS is great to deal with and his customer service is second to none.

I've got about 30,000 miles since the install. Great performance and zero problems.

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So how did you tune it after the installation? Tune Boy, Tune ECU, PCV + AT, Or did TTS flash your ECU for you? I'm very confident mechanically but the tuning is the real catch for me as there are no dyno's near that know Triumphs and superchargers?

TTS provides a map that is close enough for most.

MRP Motorsports in Pasadena, MD can do it, and I've heard good things about a shop in Richmond.

This is within reach.

BigNorm said:

I want your job Art. You get to ride and test some mean machines. I know that it is there 136 cubic inch orca motor they build with S&S parts. I also know that their real passion is setting records on the salt flats. I was thinking that they could make an intercooler for Carpenters or boost is good system. Keeping intake temperatures low is important to me. I love the idea of all that power but I still need it street able. Adjustable boost would be nice too. All I want is everything. Most of the time the only way to get everything you want is to do it yourself.

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WE have an intercooler for the TURBO setup but how much HP do you desire ?