The next-next-Gen Key-Less????

It would also be easier to retrieve your bike after you sell it - like selling a homing pigeon.

barbagris said:

Could always have the implant in the bum (or thereabouts) and the receiver just under the seat. Look - no hands.

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Who gets the honor of implanting that!?

DEcosse said:

Yes (& thank you!) - it's not because I'm searching for something 'better' - have to unashamedly agree, the 2102T is a great device and does EXACTLY what I need it to - just gotta plan for obsolescence, already harder to find (well at sensible prices anyway!!!)


That's another good point - if this ever does come to fruition it would probably mean a bike USB charger would be essential to be sure will be able to have the phone be chargeable (not all the time, wont matter when riding - but for restart phone will need to be operable)

I do see some Chinese units that have both remote & phone connections (although both seems a bit redundant?)

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TRath said:

I met a girl at the RAT Raid last weekend that started and stopped her Bonnie with a subdermal implant in the back of her hand. How far do you figure your customers are willing to go?

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i really like my fob decosse provided, heck I have 2, no subdermal implants well

caddydaddy said:

Who gets the honor of implanting that!?

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His customer service is second to none so I suspect

DeCosse,

Your keyless system is the best convenience upgrade I've done on any vehicle I've owned. I'd be ok with a 10 second lag time, but I'm usually geared up, out the door, and annoyed at waiting the 3 seconds after I pull the clutch to get the Rocket running. I wouldn't want to wait another 10 after I approach and mount up until I can pull the clutch. With the phone as the fob, Id' have some other concerns. If I'm out, and my phone dies, am I stranded without a key? I have a charger in my saddlebag, tied into the trickle charger connector, so I do charge my phone there sometimes. While I'm ok with leaving the phone charging in the saddlebag while I run into a store or I'm working nearby, I'd never leave the key fob in the saddlebag, so I would lose that flexibility. I've also lent the bike out to friends that need it, so I'd be giving out my phone too? For me, a key fob is not that big of a burden to carry.

Mhboldt said:

DeCosse, Your keyless system is the best convenience upgrade I've done on any vehicle I've owned.

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Thank you! That means a lot to hear that.

I'd be ok with a 10 second lag time, but I'm usually geared up, out the door, and annoyed at waiting the 3 seconds after I pull the clutch to get the Rocket running. I wouldn't want to wait another 10 after I approach and mount up until I can pull the clutch.

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Realistically it is not quite that bad - the time is from the edge of the trigger zone to when it comes on, not from when already at the bike; today I was testing and just walking continuously (at normal pace) towards it from outside of the range and within about 1 second of actually reaching the bench, it was on - in real terms, just getting to the bike and then climbing on, I believe it would be pretty close to ready anyway
So on that note, I really don't think most would be troubled by this.

With the phone as the fob, Id' have some other concerns.
1) If I'm out, and my phone dies, am I stranded without a key?
2) I have a charger in my saddlebag ... sometimes ... leaving the phone charging in the saddlebag while I run into a store or I'm working nearby,
3) I've also lent the bike out to friends that need it, so I'd be giving out my phone too?

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All three of those are extremely valid concerns

For me, a key fob is not that big of a burden to carry.

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Agree 100% with that! (as I would think would most users with my kit)

Again, if I could source the current receiver forever (or there was another module with same kind of spec) I would happily keep as is
I'm just looking towards possible obsolescence and potential replacements (and the phone app/bluetooth was just something I came across.

1olbull said:

Ken,
If you itch to do something with it, just try to make it smaller and leave more room under the seat for other goodies.

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So recognize, Steve - you have a kit with a separate PDM60 - the current system is ONLY the size of the Controller Module box that you have by itself
The RFID board is actually bigger than my own control/power board but it would be hard to fit everything in a smaller box, even if the RFID receiver were smaller.

DEcosse said:

Thank you! That means a lot to hear that.

So recognize, Steve - you have a kit with a separate PDM60 - the current system is ONLY the size of the Controller Module box that you have by itself
The RFID board is actually bigger than my own control/power board but it would be hard to fit everything in a smaller box, even if the RFID receiver were smaller.

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Thanks for setting me straight.
I'd not considered the size of the PDM60.
I amend my comment to, since you have water proffed the box, do nothing!
Just PM me a price for YurMama.

caddydaddy said:

Who gets the honor of implanting that!?

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More to the point, what happens when you sell the bike? "Just one moment, let me get this out of my butt so that I can insert it in yours."

That could either squash the deal, or seal the deal.

I'd prefer to carry a fob. My phone battery life sucks and I'm too cheap to get a new one. Will this work if your phone battery dies? Is there a back up way to start the bike?