P3 lights_and_Daytime_Visibility_Ver_1

mhunt75

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Hello Everyone:

This is my first post other than first hello. I am not sure how to post here yet.
Just a quick note; I just got back from a great 6 day tour of thru the center of Idaho and wanted to give a report on P3 lights and the Rocket. Our central vacation location is Red Fish Lake in the Sawtooth MTs. The GF followed in white chase truck from Boise (about 120 miles), otherwise she was onboard. The following is the feedback that I received from her observations and others comments and reactions. Her Comment was “ I now totally feel safe that I have seen them work and just how Bright they are”. My personal observation in the rear view, I have gained at least 3 extra car lengths from average following car(s), and tail gating has not happened again.
First of all, this light set up was for Central Idaho, where Cagers are totally blind to Motorcycles and 98% of all possible encounters with them are at or above 60 MPH +. So, the goal was to be seen and I could care less what it looked like when the bike was stopped. For this I mounted several different lights to see what worked the best for this area of riding. The main lights are P3 Brake-Running-Emergency Light combo. The Front lights are also P3 “Photon Blasters” With the NEW Alert System. The turn lights in the back are a collection of anything that would blink from other project bikes. This collection is located between the fender and the saddle mounts.
The P3 lights are really easy to wire in the Rocket. I can provide some wiring photos if anyone wants them. The total wire and mounting costs were under $19.00 at Home Depot/ Lowes. This setup is about a 3 out of 10 on the hard to do meter.
The New P3 front Alert system just came out a few weeks ago. I used them for over 800 miles and can tell you that they have worked 100% of the times I used them. Please look at the front marker lights. They are also wired to do turn and Alert (see Link)….
The Alert system basically flashes the front lights when triggered by 2 quick pulls of the brake in less than 1 second. I can’t even tell you how many times I used it to wake up the stop sign, I am looking but I don’t see you crowd with them. I also used them in parking lots to freeze pedestrians in their tracks. They also woke up a few oncoming lane drifting cars and trucks. They are very visible and I am sure that most who see them, think COP or something bad. I have 4 mounted in front, but plan additional.
Anyway, I will answer any questions you might have on the set up and how to do this. Being seen in plain daylight is real safety issue and challenge. These are some unedited, raw, Movies/pictures, taken at 11:00am. Please excuse the 800 + miles of road grime, it was our last day of the trip. Actually, I just wanted to see if there is any interest out there on this subject. Thanks and good riding everyone!!!


This is Pic of front view:



This is front lights ON..


This is MOV of lights in action:




This is rear PIc:


This is rear in MOV:





Leaving RED FISH!!!!
 
I think they look cool & I am sure they are very functional, unfortunately they are illegal over here in the UK, not allowed flashing lights, we can't even have one of those flashing rear brake lights that make people sit up & notice you stopping, USA land of the free, UK land of the underdog.And now it seems that Brussels want's to stop us making any mods. to our bikes & even ban home servicing, what a load of **** decided by those who know nothing about bikes except they want us off the road.
 
Dont let em do it jack!!!!!!!! Fight as hard as you can....In the US we have a group called ABATE (American Bikers Aimed Toward Education). They advocate in our government for motorcyclists....things like helmet laws and regulations on motorbikes and such....great organization. Is there an organization over there that speaks up for motorbikes to your government?

mutt
 
Where did you get the lights? Price? do they require a standard to led adapter?
I have a project that would love to have those lights!
 
Hey Jack and others
I didn’t know that these would be illegal in other countries. That is just insane!!!
Although, I can’t attest to how they work in city driving. I only ride in rural/mountain roads and almost always when I throw my leg over the seat, I am going to do at least 150+ miles. I am trying out different light combinations to see what works best for daytime touring. The setup of the front lights has made the biggest safety difference. The stock lighting is really not even close to be suitable front or back for where I ride and compete for road space. The ability to flash front lights on command, makes them more of a situational use tool. Also, I see more of a surprised look on faces of drivers that do get the flash. It does give you an option other then just sitting there and hoping that they did see you.
I am also working with Hyperlites white LEDs. The company is great to work with and they even helped me reconfigure their controller unit so that it will also flash on demand and then go solid like the yellow P3s. They have a softer look then the yellow, but they do look more like modulator head lights when flashing. I am field testing them this weekend.
As far as what these cost… the rear setup comes with a controller and 6 lights is about $250. However, The ability to be program flash pattern from several on-running-flash combos and 4 different emergency flashing modes make them more of a safety expense. They program when you first turn the key. You then have 5 seconds to pull the brake (4 times = regular on off.. 7-10 times for the different emergency Fast/med/slow flash).
The front setup is going to cost about the same. But can expand to 8 units on each side. I have just added 4 more to the bottom of my highway pegs. It really expands my visual footprint to oncoming traffic and that is the main point. I do want to be seen, and I do have them on a switch and can turn them off at night (they are WAY too Bright).
As far a legal issue. I have made several calls to the states that I travel in (ID, OR, WA, MT, UT) and the front flashing lights are in principle ok. The only DO Not USE is the colors are Blue and Red. These are not allowed to have front flash. I also looked at several state web sites and found nothing that would prohibit their use. But, This is just my research and anything is possible with small town cops. However, the cops won’t even know of the front flash unless they see me do it……. I will stop by some LEO’s at their usual speed traps this weekend and get their opinions.
Anyway, here are the links to where you can read up and / or order. Drive safe everyone!!
http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/P3_Features.shtml

http://hyperlites.com/hyperwhite.html
 
Hi Mutt, We do have similar organisations over here doing great work, the government it seems have even set up a web site to collect views & comments from people in opposition but they need to be constructive arguments that can be put forward to a central European government. It seems to me that when Brussels want something done then no amount of argument r discussion will make any difference, only active protest will do any good but it would have to be across all of Europe, we here in the UK are on the outside looking in, whatever happens here goes unnoticed over there. I would like to think that genuine constructive views would change things but I have little hope.