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My son let me know that he needed money to put down on a 2016 R3R. I told him no. That's too much bike for someone who has only one month of riding experience. I told him to get moor experience on the 1100 Honda Sabre I gave him. He tried to get the bike anyway. Turns out there is a small title glitch on the Honda that only I can correct. He tried trading it in and the issue on the title appeared. He asked me to correct it and I said no. Am I wrong thinking that a person with only one months experience is ready for a R3R. This is where I differ on the MSF course because he passed it he thinks he can ride anything. I told him pick any other bike with in reason and I would help him. Even a Hardly Able.

Let him ride yours while following on the sabre and see how he goes

Mittzy said:

Let him ride yours while following on the sabre and see how he goes

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I Know my son he would trash my X

majikdoc said:

I Know my son he would trash my X

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my son has major self control issue, and I have 3 year old grandson that needs his daddy.

Yea, I would agree with you on this. It's too easy to get into trouble with this bike if you don't know what you're doing. I remember when I first got mine, some of my friends that owned Harleys (and had been riding for 20-30 years), rode mine and brought it back saying "it's too much bike". One even said, he was "afraid" of it. This always made me laugh, because I know that I control the throttle. Regardless, for well-seasoned riders to question the ability to comfortably ride this beast, I would be very wary of a new rider that wants "write checks he can't cash". Especially when that rider is my son.
Obviously some people learn more quickly than others, but in my opinion a month of riding, no matter how many miles, does not prepare someone enough to effectively control this bike. The real question is "when will he be ready"? That answer is quite a bit trickier and only you can answer that through observation.

That's a tough situation. There are a few lessons to be learned and there is a lack of experience. Unfortunately there is no substitute for experience.

As a father I totally get where you are coming from and agree. If the Honda was a gift from you to your son then I wouldn't change anything on the title if all he is going to do is turn around and trade it in for the R3R. Some might disagree with that but my reply is that I know my son and would not want any part of enabling him getting a bike you are against. Now if he gets it by his own means, then he is a grown man and that is how life works. But at least you can go to bed knowing you didn't enable this venture.

majikdoc said:

my son has major self control issue, and I have 3 year old grandson that needs his daddy.

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Say no more. this quote and the one above it say it all.
You know the correct answer to this issue.

Question here is how well do you know your son ? I'm not gonna preach here , I passed my test at 18 and same day bought a zx1100 but I have been very lucky !
A rocket in standard guise has an engine that writes cheques that the chassis can't cash .
This means that one can easily run into trouble entering corner speed and such like . Now any petrol head , especially a young un
Could not possibly leave a rocket as standard , the potential of these beasts is easily unlocked and there you start swimming in dark waters if you are a novice . Being a big cruiser with a very relaxed riding position it is easy to take your eye off the ball in regards to just how rapid this bike can be ! Combine that with cruiser weight and handling and a novice can become unstuck . Quickly ! Don't get me wrong , the r3 can be ridden like you stole it but advanced motorcycling techniques are required to do this ! If it were my son , the smile that the rocket would put on his face would make me glow , but I would be happier if he had just a tad more experience under his belt . Maybe a compromise would be good here ? If he is determined to have one , then maybe the agreement that he takes an advanced motorcycle course first would perhaps be a good idea ?

majikdoc said:

my son has major self control issue, and I have 3 year old grandson that needs his daddy.

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I agree. I was scared riding mine back from the dealer, and I had lots of road experience. I still find myself in in situations that take all my skill and knowledge to control the bike. My son has no fear. and that makes him dangerous.