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I should have mentioned that yes I had and still have jardine pipes and a ramair filter kit and yes it growls big time I thought it was money well spent . 2wheeldynotune of kirkland retuned the bike after the install I also had the O2 disconnected but kept same pump the power band is very strong from idle .. I did not have to add nor change anything else and the torque is awesome as I say past 4000 rpm in any gear scares me