Looks wrong

Just saying, a Thruxton will run away from a Scout, straight line or cornering.

The new Rocket will run away from anything similar in a straight line, cornering remains to be seen.

The Street Triple is the dominant small naked sportbike, class topping performance compared to the Japanese competitors.

Tiger 1200 is world class adventure bike, outclasses everything except the BMW competition.

Like their style or not, when Triumph seriously decides to compete in niche they go full retard and do well.

No reason to think the R3R/GT won't be best in class or 2nd best in class to a more expensive bike.

Claviger said:

Like their style or not, when Triumph seriously decides to compete in niche they go full retard and do well.

No reason to think the R3R/GT won't be best in class or 2nd best in class to a more expensive bike.

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And you get the bragging rights to 2500 ccs

Claviger said:

No reason to think the R3R/GT won't be best in class or 2nd best in class to a more expensive bike.

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geez i like the way you think Rob...I like the class of the Triumph builds...always have since i had my first Triumph some 44-45yrs ago.

This new Rocket is an all out modern competitive big cruiser. Maybe to updated for some on here who like to tinker and build but they will sell at least as well as the older styled bikes. The looks are to subjective to debate, you like it or you don’t so I will not be ate that.

There are those out there who wear fancy boots and riding gear that will appreciate the fancy brakes, upgraded electronics, edgy wheel and shocks. The single sided swing arm and new light weight frame will yield a more sporting ride that will suit the riders capable of using those features. The clean internal wiring and aluminum components will attract the riders that care about details like aesthetics.

I’ve been called fancy before and I’ll own it.

i rode my cobbers Victory Hammer 8 ball when he owned that. It was at the time i owned my 2013 Storm. The difference was immediately obvious to me. The Victory felt ...flexible and underpowered...there was no feeling of comfort and i felt like it had no strength in the frame. When i sit on or ride a Triumph Thunderbird, a Storm, a Speedmaster or Rocket they feel very strong and responsive...maybe its just me....?

Not at all just you Tal, the build quality and fit and finish on the late model bikes is way ahead of the four Asian brands, the American brands, and only behind Ducati and BMW IMO.

Went ahead and did a little research. Company specs which means reality may be different but you can get the idea. Diavel 1260 cc 159 HP at 481 pounds dry weight. New Rockets (not the TFC) 164 HP at 648 pounds dry weight. Both very similar in design. Not that much of a difference when it comes to horsepower but big difference in weight. Granted the Rocket has more torque but weighs in a good deal more. Thruxton (not the TFC) 96 HP. Could not find dry weight of the Thruxton but the T120 is 224 KG. Indian Scout 100 HP with a dry weight of 239KG. Just keeping it real. The TFC version of the thruxton has 107 HP. Which is impressive but looking at the price tag of the TFC in relationship to the Scout it is not all that. A good set of aftermarket pipes and the Scout is there at a two thirds of the cost. We are not even going to mention the Yamaha V-Max. Yes I like my Rocket X a lot. By far the best i have owned but numbers are numbers and facts are facts. Another fact is both the Diavel and the Scout have strong aftermarket support. The Thruxton very little and the new Rocket none so far. Price wise the Diavel are at around $20,000 which is going to be close to what the 2020 rockets will run. Image that a Saturday night and cold sober.

Claviger said:

Not at all just you Tal, the build quality and fit and finish on the late model bikes is way ahead of the four Asian brands, the Americanc in dealers here. brands, and only behind Ducati and BMW IMO.

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BMW is starting to get a seriously BAD reputation in dealers for poor quality components like switchgear etc.

@sonny - whilst a very different sort of bike - Look at the power and weight of the 1300 KTM twins. 175horses and 195kgs. If they ever decide to make something a little bit cruiser-ish - Triumph (and very possibly Ducati) has problems. But so far they have no plans.

My new baby (800cc) KTM - 105hp and 170kgs. Chalk and Cheese, I know. But I have rediscovered what really good cornering means.

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Thruxton (not the TFC) 96 HP. Could not find dry weight of the Thruxton but the T120 is 224 KG. Indian Scout 100 HP with a dry weight of 239KG. Just keeping it real.

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I think you need to check your math if you're keeping it real... Also a quick search gives me a dry weight of 206kg for the Thruxton which may or may not be accurate I suppose.

3Katz said:

I think you need to check your math if you're keeping it real... Also a quick search gives me a dry weight of 206kg for the Thruxton which may or may not be accurate I suppose.

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My math is dead on. Manufacturer's very seldom give accurate Horsepower ratings. Their ratings are not based on the power at the back wheel.