GREAT New Tire Report


1 OlBull, What is the advantage of running the rear tire as the front tire backards? Any concern of tire failure at hi speeds? I don't know the reasoning behind a directional tire so I am lost here.
 
1 OlBull, What is the advantage of running the rear tire as the front tire backards? Any concern of tire failure at hi speeds? I don't know the reasoning behind a directional tire so I am lost here.

Please read previous post number 22.
 

Amigo,
For every consistent lean angle degree beyond initial peg drag, you shall find an exponential increase in performance and confidence!!!

 
Thanks @1olbull for this most excellent report! After reading your report a couple of times, and becoming inspired by your enthusiasm, I ordered a 150/70 Michelin Road 5 and installed it on the front of my Roadster. In short, it's my new favorite "front" tire!

When the original equipment Metzeler ME880 150/80 became well worn, I fitted a Michelin Commander II 140/75 which I liked a lot, for its quicker steering and good wet grip. Problem was it didn't last very long. Then I installed an Avon Cobra AV71 140/75, which always felt stiffer than the Michelin, with less road feel. By the time the Avon was 1/2 worn it had become "pointy" in profile, and had started to slide and twitch badly on wet tar snakes and other imperfections on cold wet roads. This is with the bike close to upright. It's a scary feeling and I totally lost confidence in it. The Road 5 provided a good excuse to remove the AV71 when it was 2/3 worn. Now I have tried the Road 5, the AV71 won't be going back on.

The Road 5 has really soft construction, and was the easiest tire I have installed for many years. I didn't weigh it, but it's definitely lighter than the Avon. The 150/70 Road 5 steers slower than the Avon and Michelin, which is not surprising, but still very nice, linear and intuitive. Grip in braking and cornering has been excellent. I have aimed the front wheel at all the wet tar snakes I can find, and I've felt absolutely no sliding, or even a twitch. Appearance wise, the 150/70 Road 5 looks really good and fills the mudguard a little better than a 140/75.

I should make it clear that I've only been using the Road 5 for the last 2 weeks, in winter, in NE Ohio. The temperature has ranged from 25 to 50 degrees F, with a mixture of wet roads, damp/greasy roads, and dry roads with salt residue. No footpeg scraping yet but I can't wait for that time to come!
 
@rjsjota
You have ridden the same experience as I and others regarding the good performance-short life of the Michelin Commander II and of the cupping issues with the Avon Cobra. I started a cross country ride with a brand new Commander II and it was bald at just over 4,000 miles?! Thought perhaps it was an anomaly. How many miles for you? I've run two front Avon Cobras and both cupped out after 6 to 7K miles. Then Avon Azaro rear (no longer made) run backwards was my best front tire UNTIL this Road 5!
I did not feel any change in corner responsiveness with the Road 5, but I do believe there likely would be a tad due to the wider aspect ratio.
The Road 5 is different in that it has an aspect ratio of 140/70. All the others I am aware of are 140/75. Chris @barbagris has opined that a large difference between front and rear tire aspect ratios can negatively affect handling. While falling in love with my Road 5 on the Coronado Trail, I thought of this as possibly one of the reasons why I received such terrific handling!
Enjoy your ride and sharpen those pegs!
PS: You may just end up replacing your pegs with Standard boards in order to bring things upward to allow increased lean angle, as I have done.
 
@1olbull
You asked about front tire mileage. Here is my experience:

OEM Metzeler ME880: 11k miles (1.0mm tread remaining off-center, 1.8mm center). Run at 36-38psi. Quite a lot of scalloping of the tread blocks.

Michelin Commander II: 8k miles (1.0mm tread remaining off-center 1.6mm center). Run at 38-40psi. No scalloping was noticed, partly due to the lack of tread cuts. The Michelin starts off with only 3.6mm of tread depth, so doesn't seem set up for long life. Why so little tread, I wonder?

Avon Cobra AV71: 7k miles (2.6mm tread remaining off-center and center). No scalloping of tread blocks (there are no tread cuts off-center) but the tire wore "grooves" on both sides of center, creating a pointy profile. I was running 38-40psi. Would probably have lasted 10k miles.

Thanks for the footboard suggestion, but I have long legs and not very flexible hips. To reduce hip flex, and gain leg room, I have fitted Creative Cycle #FC17 forward pegs and controls, with folding Kuryakyn #4445 Switchblade folding pegs on Kuryakyn #7573 Short Magnum mounts. Enough ground clearance for my needs with this setup...or at least it was before fitting the confidence-inspiring Road 5! I'm running it at 36psi right now, in cold conditions, will probably keep it there, since it's a 150 width, with 69 load-carrying rating, compared with 67 for the 140s.
 
1 OlBull, What is the advantage of running the rear tire as the front tire backards? Any concern of tire failure at hi speeds? I don't know the reasoning behind a directional tire so I am lost here.

In case his answer wasn't what you meant, I think because they don't make a front in the right size?
 
I have, but honestly have not yet been caught in a serious rain with puddled roadways.
Perhaps I shall on this next months ride to AZ?
If you want to get wet on the Coronado Trail ride it from the middle of July till sometime in the middle of September. It is almost guarenteed to rain sometime in the afternoon.
 
If you want to get wet on the Coronado Trail ride it from the middle of July till sometime in the middle of September. It is almost guarenteed to rain sometime in the afternoon.

I have done so five times (3 north and 2 south) in the past two years.
All were in Sep, Oct & Nov with no rain and I may just be doing it again next month on my round about ride to Glendale.
The app, Dark Sky is my friend.