Can I have more HP on a limited budget?

Question #1 - TuneBoy is a software program that allows you to adjust most of the settings, such as fuel, ignition timing, idle settings, speedometer settings, etc. in your bike's ECU. and yes, you use a laptop and the TuneEdit program to make the changes. It is not an add on like the Power Commander or F2000. How the bike runs after you make changes with TuneBoy depends on the changes you made. It's a great program and diagnostic tool as well, but it also leaves you alot of leeway to screw things up if you're not atleast somewhat knowledgeable about your bike and computers.

My personal opinion is that you would be pretty happy with a drop-in K&N filter, plus TORs or other aftermarket exhaust, and the appropriate Triumph tune to match.. then just take off and ride.. That's the combo I run at the moment on my RIII.. fixing to go the Jardine route here shortly though...

Nateskate said:

What gain can I expect from a Tuneboy. I assume it works like the F2000 or Power Commander? Is it easy to use? Do you program with a lap top? How much HP gain? Does it run or start rougher. Is it true that the stock tune is lean for EPA purposes? How hard is it to work with? I know how to do simple maint and repair. Is using the Tuneboy above my abilities? Is it easy to screw up? Do you mount it to the bike? Where is the best place to buy it?

Thanks for the help.

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TxRIIIRider said:

Question #1 - TuneBoy is a software program that allows you to adjust most of the settings, such as fuel, ignition timing, idle settings, speedometer settings, etc. in your bike's ECU. and yes, you use a laptop and the TuneEdit program to make the changes. It is not an add on like the Power Commander or F2000. How the bike runs after you make changes with TuneBoy depends on the changes you made. It's a great program and diagnostic tool as well, but it also leaves you alot of leeway to screw things up if you're not atleast somewhat knowledgeable about your bike and computers.

My personal opinion is that you would be pretty happy with a drop-in K&N filter, plus TORs or other aftermarket exhaust, and the appropriate Triumph tune to match.. then just take off and ride.. That's the combo I run at the moment on my RIII.. fixing to go the Jardine route here shortly though...

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I guess I'll offer a bit of a different opinion on Tuneboy. Obviously since I went that route and am happy with the results, I'm biased in that direction.

Its true that Tuneboy offers many adjustments. However, there are also proven tunes to match your modifications available that require you to make no adjustments, just load the tune and go. If you have access to a dyno and a tuner with Tuneboy experience then the many adjustable parameters are available to you. I'm pretty sure the average Tuneboy customer never modifies the underlying tables.

For the R3T there are a few proven tunes available. Besides the stock tune, and the 20235 TORS tune, there is a modified 20235 tune that is suitable for TORS (or D&Ds) and the drop in K&N. That tune will net you around 117/138 at the rear wheels. There's also a tune available for the triple K&Ns that will net you around 138/150.

If you're relatively computer literate Tuneboy is pretty easy to use. I've had Power Commanders on two BMWs and they're excellent products. But, in my opinion, Tuneboy is much more comprehensive and can yield better results. By the way, both products can be used together by getting a PC dyno tune and importing it into Tuneboy. Best of both worlds.

Finally, yes as Flip says, If I can cram the K&Ns under the bearclaw, anybody can.

I have to say that the short answer to your question is "NO" you are not going to squeeze much HP from the beast without spending good chunks of hard earned money.

But, it all depends on what your budget is.

The 3xK&N will run you around $120.00 and can easily be done yourself. But the Tunebody to richen up the fuel is going to be another $300.00 and should probably be done. To really benefit from the freer intake, you'll need new less restrictive pipes to loosen up the exhaust, which will run you from $600 to $1500.

Do all that and you are looking at about a 10-12% gain. Noteworthy, but not life changing, and not exactly cheap either. Start talking cams and blowers, and now you are looking at major expenses.

Oh, one more note: I think if you get the tuneboy and do NOTHING else, you are going to be disappointed. Instead, consider removing the secondaries and doing nothing else. That would a take little time, but cost nothing, and you would get a more aggressive and more responsive bike and have done about all that you can do with the tuneboy and NO OTHER MODS, which is essentially open up the secondaries.

That would be free, and noticeable. Perhaps others have different opinions. You'll need the tuneboy later, but not until you do some of the other more costly changes.

Does a R3T even have secondaries?



also honestly...

what did you expect from a tourer?

if you want a little bit more oomph, its gonna cost you to do it even remotely correct.

at a minimum a drop in filter, triumph dealer reload of a different tune, and soem different pipes.



but.... its a long dark slippery slope.. you'll be lookign at suprchargers and 3-1 pipes and gutting intakes next...


just ride it, if your not stretchign the throttle cables, and banging the redline, you don;t need any more power!!!

Oh come on...

Its like women, you love em, you hate em, you still spend the money.

Just ordered the blower kit for mine...well it is going on the standard eventually but I will try it on the Touring first...

The only part number on the performance side of things that are different on both the Standard and Touring is the throttle body assembly, and that is due to throttle body rod that the plates sits on is made from another type of brass and different tolerances that I can tell, so once you figure out the timing, open up the intake and exhaust side of things then you will have similar outputs on both.

The higher HP on the Standard compared to the Touring only helps at high mph its all about the Torque on a 800+ pound bike for off the line acceleration.

The stock intake plumbing on both and the very restrictive exhaust on the Touring is what is holding you back.

Do the intake mod and another set of pipes with Tuneboy and you should be satisfied for a while.

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Oh I was just checkign to see if he was serious

do the same tricks as the R3. filters, tuneboy, slipons, shoot a set of jardines migth work...

Guys, thanks for the input.

I'm basically happy with the bike, especially around 70mph. I hate vibration. The R3t is as smooth as my GL1800 was until you take it over 80. Therefore I like to stay under 80. BTW, the bike would be perfect with a 6th gear.

My question stemmed from my trip to bike week last Friday. Two in our pack of six were on CBR's. I couldn't keep up after 100. My riding buddy just bought an FJR, a bike I owned for two years and rode very agressively. I thought, at 46, it was time to slow down a little and relax. When I'm riding alone, or with the wife on, that's fine, but when the CBR passes at speeds over 100, my satisfaction wanes.

What I really want is 2 bikes. However, I run a Chevy dealership. Funds are, lets say, tight right now.

.....It's probably better that I can't spend the money. Florida's new "Anti-sportbiker" laws make it much more risky to ride fast. (50mph over the posted limit, $1,000 fine. Second offense, lose your bike. Lift the front wheel, $1,000 fine. Second offense, no bike.)

Thanks for the information. I'll probably start with the K&N and go from there.

You will not be able to out run any liter class sport bike past 100 MPH, even with a blower or turbo.. We have plenty of power, we're just not geared for it..

well sounds like we nee3d to talk somebody into making a 6th gear... or overdrive etc..
or cheaper 18 inch rims

My R3 regulary sees triple digits on the highways.. its not until you start getting into the 130+ that the sport bikes just walk away but then again...thats too much...

I haven't ridden a Touring bike yet, but that has me intrigued...

My Sprint ST would cruise at that all day ....6th gear