A little Lean Angle fun

Claviger said:

I'll also note, when hanging off the right side of the rocket, scooting forward and rolling hard into 2nd gear, remember there's an exhaust next to your leg or you'll get one of these for your efforts:
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Claviger said:

I'll also note, when hanging off the right side of the rocket, scooting forward and rolling hard into 2nd gear, remember there's an exhaust next to your leg or you'll get one of these for your efforts:

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Claviger said:

So I was playing with some still shots from the GoPro footage @1olbull shot on the Coronado Trail.

Interestingly, using some software I was able to get some pretty accurate guesses at ultimate mid-corner lean angle.

Comparing the same corner:

1olbull seems to be regularly hitting 34 degrees, up to 36 in spots. He can/will drag boards through corners, so of you've ever wondered about actual angles, bet on 36 as touch down point for boards and 35 for Roadster pegs.

Looking at myself in the video, I come up with an interesting thing. While my bikes angle is only usually around 29, my spine/head is more like 35-36 degrees with my inner cheek off the seat. I will note, I got lazy off camera, didn't shift body weight and ground my peg through a corner pretty hard, even though I didn't feel like I'd cornered any harder.

Granted the Coronado Trail was a road I was not going full retard, that came later in Utah on highway 12

What I find interesting is just how much getting your head and shoulders towards the inside mirror in a turn helps, something I've long known, but never been able to quantify. Now I know, when climbing off the inside in a corner I'm saving myself about 5 degrees, so 5 degrees more to play with

This is, to me, the best reason to have someone chase you with a GoPro fitted, just how much room remains and what is your body position vs how it feels. This is the type of still used:

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warp9.9 said:

I too have been known to wander around on the beast as I go thru curves. I never could seem to get comfy just sitting and leaning. But shifting my weight over and shoving my head towards the mirror helps me not grind. Of course I still get chicken strips from not leaning the bike as much!!! I'm holding near 160 now so I'm building my counter weight.

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Old N' Grumpy said:

Eat more Menundo!

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Claviger said:

Head up, inside elbow loose, eyes to vanishing point, it applies to sportbikes and rockets alike.

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Old N' Grumpy said:

Eat more Menundo!

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Claviger said:

Honestly, I try to focus exclusively on vanishing point in corners on the street. When on roads with sketchy surface like pot holes all over or gravel or high likelihood of contaminants, I ride a little slower and keep back and forth between road surface and corner exit target (vanishing point).

On nice quality roads, I ignore the road and point my eyes to the corner exit, Apex, vanishing point depending on if you can see through the turn or if it's blind. Apex point when you can see the whole turn, otherwise vanishing point.

You'll pick up road hazards in your peripheral vision when staring at vanishing point, you'll also stop processing your lean angle and speed as acutely and your pace will increase. It feels weird at first, but force yourself to do it and you'll find you'll ride more smoothly and hold better lines through corners. When it all clicks, and your flowing from one Apex to the next, picking your corner
Apex points 3-5 seconds ahead it feels like heaven imo.

It's like driving, do you stare at the tail lights in front of you, or do you look ahead of the car directly in front and anticipate by seeing further up the road? Your peripheral will pick up the brake lights directly in front of you, but by looking beyond the nearest car you can anticipate every action of the driver in front of you well ahead of time.

This is the biggest mistake I see in contemporary driving daily, people focus on the car ahead instead of the road ahead of the car ahead.

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Tbone said:

I saw these photos online. I have no idea who this is...head up, inside elbow loose, eyes to vanishing point, child on pillion doing exactly opposite, posing for photo opp, complete lack of safety gear except for bucket on head. Again, I have no idea who this is.

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warp9.9 said:

Hmmm looks like you have been there more then once with the one thats is scabbed and the others look of fresh heat discoloration. I'm liking my expensive heat shields even more now!!!!

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1K9 said:

Thank you for the visual que class. I am in heaven just going straight Following my coach I try to focus on where he is and copy the line. Anthony has a lot of exit speed. I slow down too much and don't throttle up fast and hard enough. The newly found consistent shallow or throttle-off response is helping to keep some of the throttle on through the turn.

One of the old 440 rear shocks has been leaking oil. Perhaps that's why the bike has been bottoming on me. Should I install 12.5 Triumph comfort touring or showa 13"?

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